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#176 2011-05-06 05:54:54

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#177 2011-05-06 06:10:20

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"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

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#178 2011-05-06 06:14:14

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#179 2011-05-06 06:57:04

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#180 2011-05-06 07:04:54

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#181 2011-05-06 07:15:27

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GGS -You muddle and confuse your comments on Don Juan's post and mine and your write such long, boring, repetitive, twisted, turgid tripe that I just cannot be bothered to trawl through it and try to make sense of it, except to note that you continue to miss the real point; which is (again) that civilized states should apply the same rules and procedures to all alleged malefactors: no exceptions, no excuses. Moreover, western criminal justice has as its bedrock the principle that it were better that guilty men go free than that innocent men be punished; especially when a capital offence is involved.

Instead of going over your bilge line by line, I am going to put primer on some metalwork that needs to be painted. Haven't you got some work to do?

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#182 2011-05-06 07:57:57

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#183 2011-05-06 08:55:28

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here you go GGS - read, perpend, digest and learn:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/human-rights-layer-says-osama-should-have-been-brought-to-trial-instead-of-killed/story-e6freuy9-1226049793868

 

#184 2011-05-06 09:12:00

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#185 2011-05-06 09:47:46

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#186 2011-05-06 10:42:00

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"It is my belief that nearly any invented quotation, played with confidence, stands a good chance to deceive."
- Mark Twain

 

#187 2011-05-06 11:02:18

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#188 2011-05-06 11:04:31

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Re: The Killing of Osama bin Laden and The Rule of Law

If anyone's interested in an article discussing the specific legal issues and legality surrounding the raid, Raffi Khatchadourian has written an article for The New Yorker magazine titled "Bin Laden: The Rules of Engagement." Seems a good read to me.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/05/bin-laden-the-rules-of-engagement.html


"It is my belief that nearly any invented quotation, played with confidence, stands a good chance to deceive."
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#189 2011-05-06 11:07:09

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#190 2011-05-06 11:32:54

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#191 2011-05-06 11:36:36

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Appreciate it, GGS, and I certainly look forward to it.  Like I said, it's an interesting topic on many levels.  I'm just starting the article Quay posted and I hope it lives up to expectations.  Meaning: I hope the article doesn't pretend to simplify things to jam the author's opinions through.  This is by no means a simple matter, as there is very little appropriate precedent and it's a bit of a convoluted mess, really.  Then again, any decent volume on international law will point out that this has historically been a general rule, not an exception.

 

#192 2011-05-06 11:57:57

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#193 2011-05-06 11:59:48

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As an executive summary of pertinent lessons on this topic: When it comes to tactical decisions requiring rapid mobilisation and operations behind enemy lines, do not under any circumstances consult a lawyer. For while they are debating the legality and the finer details of obscure clauses in the law, which in any evernt you can change at will through parliament, your enemy will have built an army, encircled you and will be screwing your daughter up the ass.

This ends today's lesson.


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#194 2011-05-06 12:14:59

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#195 2011-05-07 03:55:54

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"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

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#196 2011-05-07 07:06:12

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"It's an irony that it's a win-win situation for both Osama and Obama. The latter gets re-elected as president and the former gets his fast track to paradise.''

Very witty and cogent observation by our Geoffrey.

 

#197 2011-05-07 07:27:03

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#198 2011-05-07 07:34:28

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#199 2011-05-07 07:45:26

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#200 2011-05-07 08:10:40

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