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#1 2011-05-11 09:03:00

NJS
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Not that one would seek out the Daily Mail but this was sent to me

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-506219/The-testament-Flashmans-creator-How-Britain-destroyed-itself.html

 

#2 2011-05-11 09:14:01

Kingstonian
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Re: Not that one would seek out the Daily Mail but this was sent to me

NJS,

Indeed. The photo speaks volumes. Cravat at the top and those dreadful velcro shoes at the bottom. What has happened to us?

 

#3 2011-05-11 09:21:02

NJS
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Re: Not that one would seek out the Daily Mail but this was sent to me

 

#4 2011-05-11 10:04:45

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Re: Not that one would seek out the Daily Mail but this was sent to me

I like Flashman, they should make movies off those books.

I added "scunnered" to my lexicon.

 

#5 2011-05-11 10:53:51

formby
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Re: Not that one would seek out the Daily Mail but this was sent to me

....eeee when I were a lad...!!!

There's more than a grain of truth in some of the things he laments, but he's wide of the mark on others.


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

Souvent me Souvient

 

#6 2011-05-11 16:21:10

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Re: Not that one would seek out the Daily Mail but this was sent to me

Fraser was always an old grumbler and complainer and nostalgist. His book on his experiences in Burma was interesting as a war memoir, but his ranting about modern affairs made parts of it almost unreadable. I found his nonsense about post-traumatic stress to be particularly ignorant: he claims the stiff-upper-belipped British soldier never suffered from it; at about the same time I read a book by a local man who waded through much worse during the war than Fraser who claims it was quite common. The Flashman series is wonderful and I wish I had read it when I was younger, but Fraser himself seemed to personify the cranky old Englishman (Lowland Scot?) with lots of complaints but no solutions other than to wind the clock back to some imagined past nirvana. Unappealing fellow, in my opinion.

Last edited by Big Tony (2011-05-11 16:24:19)


"What sort of post-apocalyptic deathscape is this?"
"I don't want to look like a cock hungry sailor after all !!!"
"When it comes to infidelity, broken families, and reckless fatherhood, the underclass are amateurs."

 

#7 2011-05-11 16:52:06

Maximilien de Robespierre
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Re: Not that one would seek out the Daily Mail but this was sent to me

Flashman was one of the most inspired fictional creations of the later 20th century.  Tons of funs, and wildly funny.  Fraser's persona appeared to be that of a cranky old Tory who disliked  . . . well, virtually everything.  Thank god, the fictional imagination relies little upon the creator's prejudices.  Flashman, hurray! Fraser, get stuffed.

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#8 2011-05-11 18:04:14

NJS
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#9 2011-05-11 19:41:32

captainpreppy
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Re: Not that one would seek out the Daily Mail but this was sent to me

I loved the Flashman stories. "Black Ajax" was another good one. (Flashie's guv'nor appears in it.)

Nothing much I could disagree with in GMF's comments. In fairness to him, those ghastly shoes may have been necessitated by some age-related medical condition.

 

#10 2011-05-11 21:02:40

matrixxx
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Re: Not that one would seek out the Daily Mail but this was sent to me

England = fail

 

#11 2011-05-12 16:05:34

Big Tony
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Re: Not that one would seek out the Daily Mail but this was sent to me


"What sort of post-apocalyptic deathscape is this?"
"I don't want to look like a cock hungry sailor after all !!!"
"When it comes to infidelity, broken families, and reckless fatherhood, the underclass are amateurs."

 

#12 2011-05-12 19:57:19

captainpreppy
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Re: Not that one would seek out the Daily Mail but this was sent to me

Amusingly, when the "first packet of the Flashman Papers" was published, some reviewers, I seem to recall, thought it was an authentic 19th century memoir! Just shows you the gullibility of educated people. It reminds me a bit of the flap over "The Education of Little Tree," which purported to be the memoirs of a half-Cherokee boy who was raised by his Cherokee grandparents in the 1930s. It was an obvious work of fiction, but again, many people thought it was the straight goods, and it became enormously popular in American schools for quite awhile. Eventually, it turned out that the writer was a white man. Moreover, he had been a Knight of the Ku Klux Klan and a speechwriter for George C. Wallace not too many years before he wrote "Little Tree." I found the whole business hilarious.

 

#13 2011-05-12 20:34:04

NJS
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