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#1 2011-05-23 18:49:50

NJS
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Dress Is not An End In Itself

Apart from humankind's favourite activity - when no dress at all is needed, dress should be just an unobtrusive background, against which we live.

Yeah, well, discuss, if you like.

This is an opportunity for the self-expressionists in the Devil's Hole to come forward (so to speak). Let me give examples: the 'chaps', in their pristine, tweed, 'shooting' suits, standing to attention, in some ghastly suburban hell-hole, and the guys, with their arms far-forward, seeking admiration of their latest (clubless) 'blazer'.

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#2 2011-05-23 18:59:10

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#3 2011-05-23 19:07:04

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#4 2011-05-23 19:34:46

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#5 2011-05-23 19:44:19

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#6 2011-05-23 20:15:24

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#7 2011-05-23 20:27:05

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#8 2011-05-23 20:29:04

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Mankind's favorite activity is eating, which is normally performed dressed, not sex. Everybody likes to eat, and must do so of necessity. Humans under the age of 10 or so and much beyond their mid-60s, which embraces of substantial portion of humanity, normally have little interest in sex.

 

#9 2011-05-23 20:48:53

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#10 2011-05-24 09:39:12

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#11 2011-05-24 10:07:05

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#12 2011-05-24 12:00:39

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#13 2011-05-24 15:41:07

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Dressing myself although it's a professional interest (and I do think about it a bit) is really a piece of piss for me. It's just not that difficult although it is for some I suppose. I once spent 4 hours with a client talking about 1 custom shirt. It felt like ironic punishment. After 2 hours I was frustrated, 3 hours I wanted to kill him, 4 hours I wanted to kill myself. Afterwards I went home and sat in a dark room on my own for an hour while I reflected on my life decisions that lead me to where I was at that moment.


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#14 2011-05-24 16:26:36

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If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman

 

#15 2011-05-24 16:34:23

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#16 2011-05-26 05:40:34

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We mentioned Onassis and in another thread we mentioned Jackie Kennedy and, actually, the image of her standing there, in her blood-flecked clothes, to witness LBJ's swearing-in, perfectly illustrates my point in starting this thread. She was always well dressed and even something of a 1960s style icon, but the clothes were mere background to who she was and how she behaved and the occasions that she had to wear them. They were necessary background, because she had to wear something and, that being so, happened to be the kind of woman who always chose to wear something good. But the clothes had tiny essential impotance to how we remember her.

 

#17 2011-05-26 12:56:50

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#18 2011-05-26 13:41:57

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Interesting points, FNB, and they need to be digested, before anything else from me.

 

#19 2011-05-27 07:25:53

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I think you guys are thinking about this too much and getting dangerously close to iGent terroritory. It's a fact that people everywhere like to dress as fancy as possible, subject to the usual social, cultural, and religious constraints. It is ultimately cosmetic and I think most reasonably smart people don't place much importance on it, certainly much less than any of us who post about it on the interwebz.


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#20 2011-05-27 08:23:26

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I see one side of the argument as very anti-iGent. and we are hardly iGents when, for me, many of the best conversations don't involve clothes at all.

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#21 2011-05-27 09:17:50

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It seems that the clothing MB transgressed Godwins Law insofar it now will take minimal time until someone will be called out as an igent which will then be answered  by the immediate refusal of this accusation accompanied with proofs of antiigentism.
Just words on a screen.....

 

#22 2011-05-27 10:00:49

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I doubt the iGents talk or even think much about clothes offline.


"What sort of post-apocalyptic deathscape is this?"
"I don't want to look like a cock hungry sailor after all !!!"
"When it comes to infidelity, broken families, and reckless fatherhood, the underclass are amateurs."

 

#23 2011-05-27 11:50:25

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#24 2011-05-27 12:24:50

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The human body is not that attractive, at least to me. Clothes add a depth that God missed in his grand design.


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#25 2011-05-27 15:43:50

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"The less taste a person has in dress, the more obstinate he always seems to be. It is a great pity. Because he will never be a success as it" - Jerome K Jerome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVHUA4dZI0o&feature=related

 

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