I really like the bottom one. What type/weight of silk is it?
I love the second one. What do mean when you say that the silk is "tighter". I think I know what you mean, but what are the benefits of that?
As for the first, I think it's cool that you went old-school on that Penn State. What you should do, or what I woudl do, is get in touch with Alumni associations and let them know about your tie. The old guys would probably dig it.
Downside tie is the second one of the collegiate stripes that I got. A really fabulous tie, and the photo doesn't do it justice. If you are remotely interested, get David to send you a swatch.
I wondered about the Alumni associations. The second tie that I got was made from my alma mater colors. It is my impression that Associations sell junk polyester ties made in China, and could'nt sell many quality ties at @$80 a pop.
Also, since David makes these beauties by hand, he might not be able to handle a large order, or would prefer not to, if it would impair the quality. I know that he takes a lot of pride in each one that has the Sam Hober label in it, and wouldn't want the label on inferior quality.
Don't speak for David, but that is just my take, as an enthusiastic customer.
When guys around town ask where I got a Hober tie, I tell the ones that I think will wear it well. The ones looking for a bargain from China to go with their short sleeve "dress" shirts in the summertime, I tell them that it was a gift from my Daughter in Oklahoma. Having no idea where Oklahoma is on the map, they usually move on.
Last edited by Sam Hober (2007-02-17 07:16:49)
Ummmmm - Few alumni of anywhere worth their salt wear these things.
They are for others as a nice 'look'.
I'm in favour of that.
Last edited by Matt (2007-02-17 09:03:35)
I won't add to a 'hijack' (even a mini one!) but - Globalisation!
It's a great word and everybody frowns when they hear it...
Could it be a smokescreen for what might really be going on?
I welcome LL Bean's made in China stuff and anyone else's made in the USA stuff I can find.
It's all a balance.
We need some globalisation just like we need to keep some local stuff, wherever we might live.
It's the way of the world.
If people turned their attention to promoting their locally produced items instead of wasting all their energies railing against Globalisation then they would help this balance.
That said, I like Sam's ties very much too.
Downside is hardcore Roman Catholic, btw. Cool tie for any stylish Episcopalian too, tho'.
I admired Adam Smith when I read Wealth of nations a long time ago. And I am in favor of international business and practice it when it works well.
We do not make ties overseas primarily for quality control reasons.
We are in a niche business that requires great precision. There are a number of suppliers all over the world who do not like me very much because I am very, very demanding. But that is ok as long as our clients love us.
In addition to making ties in North Carolina, I am giving thought to weaving silk. Not to save money but to have complete control over the process. Probably we would continue to farm the silk worms in Thailand, but who knows maybe we will find a way to do that in North Carolina also?
The feeding of the worms would have to be automated.
Just saying that the tie is the tie of a very hardcore Catholic Boys boarding school. Monks & everything.
Lots of Trads waffle on about being Episcopalians (sp? We don't have them in England) which they see as being more WASP than the Presbetyrians (sp?) which we have, but only in Scotland.
If Trads like the cool Catholic tie I say let 'em wear it.
All these religions have different meanings outside of Trad-land anyway.
Trad snobbery is very topsy-turvy.
Let me know if I can break down English religious snobbery for you.
Sadly it sneers at the Episcs.
D.
Break down as best you can, by all means. I found it dizzying to follow in my literature classes.
The reason I said my parents would understand the observation better is because they come from a time and place when your Christian denomination dictated your friends and definitely whomever you would marry. Nothing like that at all over here anymore. Best we can do as a substitute for good old fashioned sectarian violence (between Christian sects) nowadays is during sports events between Catholic and Public schools ...
Last edited by Terry Lean (2007-02-17 13:21:12)
Terry,
"Just saying that the tie is the tie of a very hardcore Catholic Boys boarding school. Monks & everything."
Thank you for the information. I am fascinated by history and I will be adding a paragraph or so of history to our regimental and college ties as time allows.
Do you know if Downside is only a school or is it also a college?
Last edited by Terry Lean (2007-02-18 13:28:51)