Hippie re the above - I thought you said you were not on the piss anymore?
^Re. Vacheron, same with Bell & Ross then they decided to follow the market and enlarge the face to the size and shape of a tube television.
There's a optimum size for a watch face and that is somewhere in the 33-36mm arena. This is a size that Rolex is eschewing for an ever increasing phallic rock size.
FXH: Yes, I am completely sober. I'm on a natural tea lea high, but I will be checking out some wheat grass very soon.
Oh no not the wheatgrass
There's no detox for that!
http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/showthread.php?45087-Rolex-love-it-or-hate-it
This fourteen page Andyland thread will provide no real usable Rolex information but it is good for a laugh, and perhaps a sociology master's thesis on class aspiration and pathological consumerism.
What does it all mean.....Rolexes filling my dreams......flying by me.....springs and calibrations ticking gently by......buy me! Buy me! Then you will be happy!......Wear me on your wrist......You will be the new kid on the incabloc......
Then I awake, get dressed and with my iPod tuned into my trad jazz selection, I notice several workers just like me proudly displaying their Rolex Submariners on the morning commute. Rolex, the choice of middle management and wage slaves everywhere.
IMHO one only needs to own one watch. Patek 5004.
My wife's Rolex is in the shco (again), mine now about 5 seconds fast a day. I'm told that is about as good as you can expect. I got my son a Breitling Super Ocean in Switzerland in July. Seems to be very accurate.
I am considering a Breguet Marine (owned by the Swatch Group). Of course, my Swatch is the most accurate and least troublesome of the lot.
Last edited by Maximilien de Robespierre (2011-09-01 15:13:36)
Could not have said it better myself.
Any quartz watch will outperform a mechanical one.
Do people really buy mechanical watches for their superior time keeping? I don't think so.
The best you're going to get out of a mechanical watch is a certified chronometer ("superlative" with some Rolexes) which has an accuracy of between -4 to +6 seconds per day. This of course is certified at the time of testing and has no bearing on future reliability so is totally meaningless when you're buying vintage watches that may have never been serviced.
Nevertheless, when a watch has a second hand a mechanical hand's ticking or sweep is far more aesthetically pleasing that the abrupt movement of a quartz. Mechanical watches also retain their value more than quartz. The price of second hand quartz Cartier watches are a fine example of rapid depreciation of a fine product.
I've always admired people who go through life with the same watch day-to-day for thirty or forty years. I've always considered this an aim, but all the watches I've had have ended-up boring me and then I will purchase another one in the hope that I will find my ultimate watch and never need another. The search continues.
The last watch I thought was going to fulfill this was the Omega Speedmaster Automatic, a nicer size than the standard Professional moon watch with the same looks. However, it went back to Omega three times under warranty and once you've had that experience it will put you off the watch if not the brand for life. I hear bad reports that Omega's QC is substandard now and then I see a lot of people here in the Hague with Co-Axial Omegas and all the wearers I've asked have been satisfied with them.
Submariners seem to be on the way-out with oil & gas workers. One time they were pretty much ubiquitous and a watch that someone would automatically purchase after their first tour of duty in the Middle East. It was a badge of honour and status symbol that you were earning lots of lovely tax free cash. Of course, things have changed, the cost of Rolexes in Dubai are the same as in Europe and the allegedly wonderful tax free lifestyle in the Middle East is rapidly diminishing and a lot of expat jobs are being fulfilled by Indians now. It now seems tacky if not down right embarrassing to sport a shiny, new Submariner. Vintage Submariners with the tritium glow are another thing all together.
In saying that, and despite my reservations about Rolex's branding and their sport watches, last week I traded the Omega for a vintage Air-King Rolex with the blue metallic face. The Oyster watch case and bracelet is a design classic, sturdy and masculine. The size is also right, no pretensions and no bling, it fits under the shirt and tells the time fairly accurately for a mechanical watch. It will suffice for now.
I've had my Rolex datejust for 41 years. Lots of service, not great timekeeping, but close enough. I recognize it for what it its, an overpriced, heavily marketed, very nice design mechanical watch. Paying $500 every few years to maintain it is annoying for such a mediocre watch, but my having kept it and used it daily must mean something.
That said, I am graduating to a Breguet Marine Big Date, which curiously works well as both a sport watch and a dress watch, simply by swapping the band from rubber to leather/reptile. Stunning, and with a new improved Swiss price as of September 1.
Having sported the Air-King for less than a week, it dawned on me that although the build quality is there, it's breeding wants it to display itself like the dainty piece of bling it is. All that shiny metallic blue and white gold dials, embarrassing. What was I thinking?
Soon returned to weaing the subdued and tritium lumed CWC mechanical service watch and the Longines 1959 Conquest.
Fortunately, I managed to do a straight trade in of the Air-King for a used but mint condition Sinn 900, a real piece of horological engineering and this is it:
http://www.sinn.de/en/Modell/900.htm
Enough chronograph calculation functions to make the jump into hyper-space. I am well satisfied.