Last edited by 4F Hepcat (2011-09-14 11:56:58)

Trumper's Wellington and Marlborough are both very nice, and Marlborough lasts quite a while. It's clear that they're using few synthetic ingredients if that's a concern.

Creed's marketing is quite interesting, though as Max says it's irrelevant to the actual scents, which are generally good. At any rate it really draws in the rubes from places like Basenotes and Styleforum. The basic truth of the story is that the Creed family were tailors in the 18th century and then re-invented themselves as high end perfumers in the 1980s; they're sort of like the Rubinaccis, in that there's a weird old man and a supposedly more forward-looking son (Olivier and Erwin). No evidence exists that they sold any fragrances before the late 1960s, at the very earliest. Their classic Green Irish Tweed, which they swear Cary Grant wore, came out in 1985, a year before the actor's death.

Of course Styleforum pseudo-elitists eat up the brand's claims of having been worn by movie stars and European royals, and the Basenotes weirdos get all excited about their claims to using century-old recipes calling for real ambergris and Mysore sandalwood. The Basenotes pro-Creed crowd have entered into an interesting logical fallacy in which they state that unless someone unearths a document that specifically shows that Creed was NOT a perfumer from 1760 to the present, then we must believe all of the brand's claims. Luca Turin especially hates Creed and all its works, and his reviews of Creed fragrances in his big cologne book are nasty and subjective in a way that I find delightful.

Some of the Creeds are very good, but they're all overpriced. The Basenoters perform a delightfully iGent ritual with Creeds, in that they try to get them as cheaply as possible and then obsessively worry that they've bought a fake, or that their batch has been damaged by contact with malign spirits, or that their atomizers are in some way betraying them. It's like the Allen-Edmonds seconds trade, maybe even stupider!

EDIT: There's a classic thread somewhere in the Inane Post catalog in which Spoo smugly boasts that he buys his FINE CREED FRAGRANCES in Paris, and then that grotesque software guy who looks like Bilbo Baggins comes in and announces that you can also get your Creeds through Walgreens.com.

Last edited by Gilgamesh2003 (2011-09-14 12:38:50)

Scents must be prohibited. Here are simples reasons why must destroy all bottle in rubbish.

Confuses location of sweet scent of virgin female meerkat ready to mate and in heat.

Confuses location of mongoose, and requiring specials mongoose locator.

Last edited by Alexandre Orlov (2011-09-14 19:08:34)

I have no idea if the brand history for Knize is real or an invention, but Knize Ten is awfully good, and unlike almost anything else out today (maybe Habanita by Molinard is close, or at least in the same neighborhood). Twelve is not bad either, kind of a kitschy floral thing, far from the booze-and-cigarettes of Ten. Actually Jacomo de Jacomo Black, which is a stunningly cheap minor fragrance, is almost as smoky as Knize Ten, though not nearly as good.

Alexandre is probably mad because so many perfumers exploit the beautiful and noble civet, an ancient ally of the Meerkat kingdoms.

It may sound ridiculous, but it has been for centuries.

Jean Patou a Paris fashion designer made silk ties from dress material for women, therefore, the advent of the bow design.

So the concept is nothing new. The fact is that women's fashion has been designed specifically to appeal to men.

And so, naturally, as a hint of femininity in men's accessories, silk ties, in particular, makes perfect sense. The other thing is, you will be amazed at the number of women than men designer clothes.

It is our good fortune that they do otherwise would end up with nothing but gray suits, striped ties broken old portfolios.

I seen the spring summer 2009 collection of silk ties, which are drab and colorless, a series of stripes and geometric, floral is not at all, that, after seeing what women carry the plan is in contrast logic.

^I might give that a go. Vetivers are just pure class, the plebs don't get it and you won't find any in the duty free.

The Original Vetiver from Creed has had a lot of bad reviews, the main criticism being that its a much weaker scent compared to Creed's other older and 'original' Vetiver. The older Vetiver is superb, its an ideal everyday fragrance and a 75ml bottle isn't going to last long.

It takes me a long time, generally several years to finish a bottle of cologne, the exceptions are: Blenheim Bouquet, the original Polo Green and Vetivers which I go through extremely rapidly as they are ideal scents for all occasions: work and leisure. Splash it on all over mate!

My ancestors did not go through all that to stink like filthy musks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTAd-Mo8Ua0

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