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#1 2006-04-13 15:44:20
- Film Noir Buff
- Dandy Nightmare
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Red patterns on navy cloth
How do you feel about this combination?
Red pin or chalk stripes on navy wool, even windowpanes.
Give your instant impressions of all 3 or 4 different men below.
How do you all feel about a suiting with red stripes on navy wool? In either a bright red or a dull rust red color? You may categorically like or dislike the look. However, for those who aren’t quite sure, here are three scenarios.
1. A man comes to your office to interview for a job. He is wearing a worsted navy suit with relatively bright but thin beaded pinstripes set about 1/2 inch apart with a white shirt, dark brown calf monk strap shoes and a ruby red woven tie with a self jacquard pattern. How do you react to him?
2. A man walks past you on a sidewalk in a DB navy flannel with rust colored chalk stripe. He is wearing a par of dark brown suede oxfords, a red and white mini gingham check shirt with white collar and white French cuffs, a navy tie with widely spaced red and white dots on it. What is your impression of such a man?
3. You meet with someone in a similar industry for lunch and he arrives in a blue suit with a rust windowpane, medium brown calf shoes, a light blue end on end shirt and a navy tie with red and white stripes. What goes through your mind as you shake hands?
If 3 above cannot apply to you. You’re placed at a front row table at an industry lecture and the CEO of XYZ corp. goes to the podium to extol on recent profits. He is wearing a navy hard finished worsted with an alternating faint white and a stronger, medium red chalk stripe, black shoes, a white spread collared shirt and a silver wedding tie.
#2 2006-04-13 16:11:47
- padawan
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Re: Red patterns on navy cloth
I really like the look of a bright red pinstripe on navy wool.
Chalkstripe would be too much as I imagine pencil would also. Windowpayne even worse.
1. I think he's dressed well. Perhaps a bit too foppishly for an interview - the ultimate 'play it safe with your dress' situation
2. Too busy of an outfit - but decently dressed (minus the suede shoes)
3. That outfit is rather busy.
#3 2006-04-13 17:25:30
- kenperes
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Re: Red patterns on navy cloth
I own almost nothing red. Not ties. Not shirts. I am probably the wrong person to answer this question. See if that stops me 
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1. Sounds OK, but I do not really like the idea of a solid red tie on a white shirt. Seems a bit presidential to me.
2. That I would notice. No white collar for me, but altogether very elegant. The DB jacket should be a touch short in my estimation, but again that is personal taste.
3. Again, I do not really like the choice of shirts, but the suit sounds great. I like rust, just not true red. I don't really like end on end and would prefer a light blue striped shirt with a solid maroon tie.
4. Sounds great, but I would not wear a silver tie. I might use a dark yellow with some rust or brown neat patterns.
They all sound well dressed with the exception of #1, but #2 sounds the best. DB with suede is very chic.
#5 2006-04-13 20:37:39
- maxnharry
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Re: Red patterns on navy cloth
There is a coat made of something like this in Roetzel and I think it looks excellent.
#6 2006-04-14 05:38:14
- Horace
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Re: Red patterns on navy cloth
Twenty years ago I would've said no, but I now sort of like red window-pane on navy. Maybe even pinstripes. Thicker chaulk stripe not so much.
As for the figures you mention, I'd look askance (for a moment) at anything that stands out or is too flashy, though I'd hope I'd be able to concentrate on what the person had to say rather than his clothes.
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#7 2006-04-14 06:03:06
- maximus
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Re: Red patterns on navy cloth
I love all those combinations. I think red on navy looks really smart.
I might substitute a striped shirt for the white one in the first example.
I am also not a huge fan of monk straps. Otherwise, I like most of what you posted there without change. Are these people wearing proper pocket hankies?
I shall commission a suit:
So let it Bespoken
So let it be done!
#8 2006-04-14 10:41:44
- oldog/oldtrix
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Re: Red patterns on navy cloth
I'd put the rust windowpane on the DB navy flannel, keep the dark brown suede oxfords (narrow round cap toe, leather sole/heel, beveled waist), substitute a dark, almost French, blue royal oxford shirt w/ wide spread collar and barrel cuffs, solid rust cashmere tie, paisley silk pocket square in rust/navy/mid blue/green/gold, and navy wool/cashmere socks. I'd wear a dark brown fur felt trilby and, if necessary, tweed SB overcoat in predominantly dark brown tweed w/ notch lapels, patch and flap pockets and deep sleeve cuffs. brown peccary gloves, and dark brown flat weave cashmere scarf. I wore this combination during a very cold snap in February; however, sadly, the suit is solid navy, no windowpane.
#9 2006-04-14 22:09:50
- ernest
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Re: Red patterns on navy cloth
I would think they come from countryside because of their shoes.
Red and pink match very well with blue.
Matching dots/stripes/checkes is not a good idea.
I would go for 2 plain and 1 patterned, for exemple =
Striped suit/plain shirt/plain tie
Striped suit/plain shirt/striped ties could be possible if the stripes are very different in size.
#14 2006-12-16 18:13:55
- suds-okeefe
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Re: Red patterns on navy cloth
Found with a search. Sorry, I feel on AAAC I have to explain why I posted an old thread.
I was considering buying a Canali suit with a red pinstripe. You dont see that around much. It seemed a little menial, like something a postman would wear. Maybe it is just because you rarely see them. Is there a tradition for it in America or in the UK?
#15 2006-12-18 07:51:37
- Horace
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Re: Red patterns on navy cloth
I've seen some nice examples of navy blue with (subtle) red windowpane at the Andover Shop. I like them.
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#17 2006-12-21 10:35:22
- Film Noir Buff
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Re: Red patterns on navy cloth
I think they might be considered unacceptable by people who never had access to mtm or custom swatch selections. That might even be changing. I wouldnt make a meal out of them unless you deliberately liked and wanted that as your moniker.
I have never bought a navy with a red pattern on it. Unless you count that navy with a baby pink stripe I thought I was getting which was sent directly to my tailor and turned out to be a sort of hot pink, which some people interpret as a scarlet. Funny that if I wear hot pink accessories with the suit people think the stripe is pink and if I wear red, they think it's red.
#18 2006-12-21 15:30:55
- passingtime
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Re: Red patterns on navy cloth
I have a very dark blue 2 button SB suit with a red pinstripe on a half inch spacing interleaved with a shadow stripe. I had it made up while I was working in London after I saw another suit with a fine red pinstripe. I can't remember for sure but I think the cloth was from Holland and Sherry, probably about 10/11 oz. It works very well as the pinstripe is thin and relatively unobtrusive. I wouldn't wear it to an interview or with brown shoes though.