John N Kent
Having read about John Kent being the tailor for Prince Philip in Mr. Roeztel's book. I travelled all the way to London to order a suit. The material that I commissioned was a plain navy blue. About a month later I travelled all the way to London again for the first fitting only to see the suit made up in a grey chalkstripes. After inspecting the order book he realized he used another customer's material on my suit and vice versa. What a cock up and a waste of journey at my expense.
The cut wasn't great but acceptable and the finishing was nowhere near what I'd call the top end of bespoke. I still wear it occasionally though.
Twin Six,
The beauty of going bespoke is like being in a diamond mine. You know you're bound to unearth a gem sooner or later given you're there and persistent long enough.
I had suits that were made and finished beyond my wildest expectations by various Savile Row as well as other tailors around the world.
Twin Six,
The good Doctor Muller also posted a post on SF:
http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=30085&highlight=pleased+meet
Last edited by Marc Grayson (2007-02-24 13:10:33)
Marc, I am so in agreement with you here. As we have honed in on the type of clientele we wish to deal with we find that they too do not wish to waste time nor money on young startups.
Our current client whom reportly spends 3000.00 USD on an inexpensive suit and 20,000.00 USD on an expensive one, certaintly has made it abundantly clear that he did not mind an investment of 30,000.00 in 10 quality hats that he ordered but on the other hand his intent was clear to not have to give up time or call for second and third fittings on these.
We was honored to take on the job and it seems his first hat was a true delight for him and he eagerly awaits the other nine.
We have found it is not all that wish for the level of product and or service of this type client and it is not a harsh thing to tell the ones that wish to shop the other side of the tracks to do so at their leisure.
After all WalArt is not but a call away as well as the local delkscount stores. If people are looking for a burlington type of arrangement they should just be content to go there and not have to banter about the bespoke people that paid their dues.
Doc seeing one of your post on SF, you seem to be a very colorful guy in the orange britches and tie.
Welcome back, GH.
terry
Good to be able to drop N Mr. Lean after all one has to know about Mrs. Lean and the Asian porn time to time as well as stylish orange britches.
Mr. Grayson and FNB and all that are the thread experts and maybe you as well Doc but looking at your stuff I am in doubt!
Can you tell me about cloth weights and such or any crash course in the finest suit fabrics?
You advise is both friendly and helpful.
I do appreicate it.
I also wish to question it in a friendly manner.
First question is there some manners you are supposed to have on forums that allows you to laugh at people in the back room or in snide remarks but prevents you from just telling the truth or your opinion in open?
Do you find those orange britches shown in that photo anything to be treasured or even liked?
I am not being mean to the doctor if he is a doctor or is even real .
I am making it clear as crystal that I find that garb so hidious that I suspect its not him not real and he probably is not reas as a result but then reading his comments he seems very real so I am forced to ask is this current style or anything anyone besides him finds attractive.
Mind you I make bespoke accessories and some request I have filled are far from anything I found flattering and my lack of appreciation for them should not be considered as the final word of their acceptablity or fitness for a purpose but instead just one mans opinion.
What I am concerned about however is are you allowed to have an opinion here or are you not?
Also I am wondering if your precieved conduct on some other forum is supposed to inhibit any reception on this one?
First question is there some manners you are supposed to have on forums that allows you to laugh at people in the back room or in snide remarks but prevents you from just telling the truth or your opinion in open?
I have found in life you get more with honey than vinegar. I was taught it is none of my business what others think or say it is how I react.
Last edited by Gladhatter (2007-02-25 07:01:43)
And you came here because ? And you was invited by whom? And your knowledlege of fashion beyond Indiana Jones is ?
Is that really any of your concern ?
Gladhatter,
I for one find Doc's outfit quite elegant including the orange trousers. I've always thought that bright corduroy trousers, as often displayed in the windows of Jay Kos, look well with tweeds and casual fall jackets as well as suede brogues. It's a tradition that goes back many years.
I'd be interested in seeing hat photos.
Regards,
Steven
I certainly am not shy about sharing hat photos here or anywhere but am unsure about server space, band width allotments and what not of our host and wishing to be mindful of him and his space, I wish to direct you to : http://www.gladhatter.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=22 for hat photo viewing that requires no membership or other commitments.
I will gladly however pick and choose among the ones that may interest you folks and post them if there is a desire and it is proper manners and not too consuming of the resourses of this board.
Thank you for your candid honesty. Its a most refreshing thing.
I have a passion for lavendars and purples that appeal to me personally and many other bright colors as well just not orange. I am paticularly fond of the orangish color Mango however and Peach is also a favorite as well as burgundy and some dusty roses.
I have actually commissioned hat bodies in these unique colors in my last order to try to introduce the world and actually reintroduce them to a splash of color that I find refreshing.
Again no personal disregard for Docs choices as I have my own that others may hate. Its just I do not care for them is all and yet wish to enlist an honest conversation about it. I think its a most reasonable thing I do.
When I was a kid we was so broke we could not pay attention. Welfare row here I am telling you.
I never forget the first pair of britches that I got that was not handed down from my brothers, did not have patches on the patches and was made of something besides denim and was not blue.
They was the exact color of the ones Doc has and boy was I some kind of happy camper. Never forget I insisted ( in true hillbilly style) to wear them to school right away. Well they was sure a pretty thing I thought but first time I fell the knee ripped out of them. Not very practical at all and I expect was some of the first Chinese low end imports I had experienced in life. Seemed to be polyester twill as well. I still cannot forget them and how I insisted to wear them one more time regardless of knee damage or the filth of wearing them the day before. After all they was my new britches.
Well by that evening comming home I was about discusted with myself and my britches and my state of finanical affairs. I decided that day however I would wear what I fancied some day to come and I would be a made man able to buy what I wished for.
Life and times change what we think is good, better and best and yet often we never forget what we once thought was poor bad or worse.
I had forgotten about those orange britches till 1 minute ago and now I can see how that even someone that currently finds them repulsive, may have once loved them and may even love the same another day.
So as men are ever changing and ever staying the same.
I get the feeling someone is testing me on this thread. Probably not a good idea.
Hello again,
I was away in England last weekend therefore sorry to miss all the discussions about the colour of my pants.
Gladhatter,
You sounded as though you've never set foot in London, Paris, New York, Tokyo or any major city in Italy, certainly not the posh parts of those cities mentioned. I'm not trying to be condescendent but to be able to appreciate colourful corduroy and moleskin pants you need to live at least for a while in a prestigious area, reach a certain level of social status and be in the right kind of social circles (countryhouse weekend, vintage car racing and polo match). Also, I've to warn anyone who's under 50 to think twice before buying and wearing them because they're for older people like me, in fact the older the better. They just don't mix in with younger faces. I've a titled English business associate, who is 78 and has more than 100 plain navy blue bespoke suits in his dressing room, wears bespoke corduroy and moleskin pants with tweed jackets almost exclusively nowadays.
I bet you hate pink shirts and anything that's made by Turnbull and Asser and I'm also sure you still have a lot to learn in classic dressing. Perhaps reading Mr. Roetzel could help.