Stay off them, Shooey. We love your crazy outback ass just the way it is.

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Shooman, seriously now. Read and learn from me, painful as that may seem.
I have been around a little bit longer than you, so I have seen a lot of these alternative medical fads come and go.
One of this very forum's (Ivy) icons, Steve McQueen, when dying of cancer went in search of Laetrile to Mexico. Laetrile was an extract of apricot that fit into the nutritional healing nascent scene. Well, it didn't work. But since we're inside a computer let's talk of another Steve (Jobs) who wasted precious time with a nutritional cure to a variety of pancreatic cancer that is otherwise curable with early intervention. That did not work either. So what works?

The point here is not to denigrate natural remedies or nutritional cures but to point out the differences between "alternative" therapies and "conventional" medicine. It is the winnowing out process of "what works", AKA, the "peer reviewed process"

A lot of the medical establishment drugs (digitalis, atropine, penicillin, etc) are found in nature. What makes them "conventional" rather than "alternative" therapy is the fact that they went through a process of peer reviewed statistically sound trials that were published, then either refuted or confirmed by subsequent trials. Many other "alternative", as well as "scientific establishment therapies" have started with great hope on the road of trial verification. If they  fail this process they fall into the dustbin of medical history like Laetril did, and a myriad other compounds evil pharma generated and lost money on.

The fact that some drugs have side effects is well known. The decision to use a drug with risks entails a careful weighing of the risk/benefit ratio. This act of weighing the risk benefit ratio of anything is the reason you spend years after medical school in residency training, early on watching many others make those judgements, later on making those judgements yourself under supervision. It is just a tad more valid than internet learning, which I also do, by the way. Still, being humans, we fail at times. And yes, a perfectly good medicine can kill in the wrong circumstance.

Your categorical renunciation of one of humanity's greatest achievements (reductions of morbidity and mortality rates, expansion of life span) falls within the inane heading of this thread. I find it more inane, and inexplicable, that I took the time to respond to your posts and if others laugh at my expense it is well deserved. Everybody agrees when seeing an argument between a sane person and a crazy one, the humor lies in seeing the sane one unwittingly descend to the level of the crazy one. So it is that from such a vulnerable point I offer these words to Shooman, out of kindness, concern, and respect for his abundant good qualities.

"Your crazy outback ass just the way it is" may be easy to love or tolerate from afar. But is full of confusion, misplaced anger, more than a hint of paranoia, and interferes with navigating through normal social intercourse. This of course would be passable, were you not so hungry for approval, and desperate to belong.

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