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Last edited by EL72 (2007-03-10 21:00:41)
You have edited your provocative comments, but it would not have mattered EL72. You are a gadfly, a poster of no consequence.
I cannot think of a better link to underscore what we are not about. A moderator, and probably more, of a commercial website wanting to attract advertising, pursues an arcane personal vendetta, using a dubious scrap of evidence and all over something that took place 20 years ago. The amount of misplaced psychic energy admittedly frittered away by the author is frightening.
I appreciate Mr. Grayson's restraint in this matter. He and the rest of the regular members here are busy coming up with original content for style, education, entertainment and for general camraderie; all useful, all with nothing asked for in return. They are not busy polarizing the community by pretending not to want to fight but in fact rooting to do so in perpetuity.
Here is a shirtmaker who makes the most beautiful shirts in the USA and makes them now, not a quarter century ago.
http://www.filmnoirbuff.com/article/paris-shirts-reprise
I would imagine anyone who needs to cling to yellowed, tattered and non-dispositive achievements is very unhappy. We wish them well for they must be in a very lonely place with only the silence of their own shortcomings to keep them company.
You've got to accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
Latch on to the affirmative
Don't mess with Mister In-Between
You've got to spread joy up to the maximum
Bring gloom down to the minimum
Have faith or pandemonium
Liable to walk upon the scene
(To illustrate his last remark
Jonah in the whale, Noah in the ark
What did they do
Just when everything looked so dark)
Man, they said we better
Accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
Latch on to the affirmative
Don't mess with Mister In-Between
No, do not mess with Mister In-Between
Do you hear me, hmm?
(Oh, listen to me children and-a you will hear
About the elininatin' of the negative
And the accent on the positive)
And gather 'round me children if you're willin'
And sit tight while I start reviewin'
The attitude of doin' right
(You've gotta accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
Latch on to the affirmative
Don't mess with Mister In-Between)
You've got to spread joy (up to the maximum)
Bring gloom (down) down to the minimum
Otherwise (otherwise) pandemonium
Liable to walk upon the scene
To illustrate (well illustrate) my last remark (you got the floor)
Jonah in the whale, Noah in the ark
What did they say (what did they say)
Say when everything looked so dark
Man, they said we better
Accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
Latch on to the affirmative
Don't mess with Mister In-Between
No! Don't mess with Mister In-Between
t.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PrZ8vVZ2no&mode=related&search=
All together now!
t.
1. What was the genesis of this apparently long-standing disagreement that led to AK's post?
2. Most of what FNB said.
What's the first recorded appearance of a horizontally striped shirt? Or a striped shirt at all for that matter?
Last edited by Terry Lean (2007-03-11 15:54:22)
Last edited by Cruz Diez (2007-03-11 18:44:10)
I think he's a good man at heart.
Last edited by Horace (2007-03-11 18:49:40)
I can't imagine anyone who searches for 4 years for an obscure yellowed clipping and then posts it triumphantly like some newly discovered Dead Sea Scroll has been happy for a long time.
Don't know about vertically striped suits, Brother H. I too have read & dismissed the 'ledger book' theory. It's far to cute to be true.
Regatta shirts were introduced in England in the 1870's and were informal items, not suitable for business wear until much, much later.
The BD is a gift from God!
I'm guessing that calling it a Polo shirt was to evoke well, ... Polo and all that goes with it. Upper Class wealth/leisure connections and all that.
The Tennis collar is an old name for an old style pre-Brooks. Their Golf collar is their own naming too I think, just like their Polo collar was.
Others may know more than me.
In antiques you often come across items called 'Apprentice pieces' - Cabinets or whatever constructed by young men at the conclusion of their apprenticeship to really show off all their skills. Real tour de force items. A horizontally striped shirt looks to me like a similar creature. As the clipping says: "A shirtmakers shirt". The point of it is to show off the skills of the guy who made it, just like a chevron patterned shirt would be or those scaled down shirts you see in shirtmakers window displays getting ever smaller. A bit of a gimmick.
It certainly wouldn't be only 20 years old - No way would something as simple as having stripes going in another direction not have been thought of before, surely?
Last edited by Terry Lean (2007-03-12 03:02:52)
The American minister to Norway before WWII, and later ambassador, AJ Biddle, was photographed wearing a horizontally-striped shirt at some point. I think he was known as a bit of a dresser.
Edit: Ah, I see someone at AAAT has beaten me to it:
http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/showpost.php?p=514695&postcount=17
Last edited by Lucky Strike (2007-03-12 03:46:02)
I guess an obvious source of inspiration for the horizontal stripe might be those shirts that sailors & pirates wore since forever.
Just a thought.
I'm an ideas man, me.
Zat you, Al?
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