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#1 2007-03-22 02:49:33
- Incroyable
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I don't like the Windsor knot.
Does anyone agree with me that this overly large and symmetrical knot should best be left for trendy store assistants and upstart English bankers?
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#2 2007-03-22 02:53:21
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Re: I don't like the Windsor knot.
""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.
#3 2007-03-22 02:56:00
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Re: I don't like the Windsor knot.
Another point of hate is how the Windsor knot has gotten so popular in recent years; and the wide spread collar.
One sees it everywhere from the high-end to the mall shops. The beggars who wear the Windsor ties with the requisitely gaudy ties and a mathematically plane spread collar are irretrievably tacky.
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#4 2007-03-22 02:58:43
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Re: I don't like the Windsor knot.
Who was it that said never trust a man who wears a windsor knot?
""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.
#6 2007-03-22 07:06:54
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Re: I don't like the Windsor knot.
Ties are like trousers - It's best if you stick to the straight & narrow.
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#8 2007-03-22 08:40:42
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Re: I don't like the Windsor knot.
Absolutely! I've had people ask me what kind of knot I tie on several different occasions. I tie a four in hand with a really good/thick tie!
Also the Windsor knot strips away any chance of possessing the "sprezzatura" that so many speak of.
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#9 2007-03-22 08:57:49
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Re: I don't like the Windsor knot.
The four in hand knot for me as well please, I don't wear a tie often but when I do I tend to wear a semi spread collar shirt with it , which may surprise a few but looks good IMHO....
#10 2007-03-22 09:14:42
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Re: I don't like the Windsor knot.
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#11 2007-03-22 09:20:22
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Re: I don't like the Windsor knot.
Anyway: what's all this guff stuff about having a perfect dimple in your tie?
#12 2007-03-22 09:33:00
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Re: I don't like the Windsor knot.
http://www.tie-a-tie.net/windsor.html
"The Windsor Knot is a thick, wide and triangular tie knot that projects confidence. It would therefore be your knot of choice for presentations, job interviews, courtroom appearances etc. It is best suited for spread collar shirts and it's actually quite easy to do"
This is terrible advice, it doesn't project confidence, it makes you look like a cad.
Has prole drift so completely overtaken our society that people think that this is the proper look?!
#13 2007-03-22 09:44:31
- Twin Six
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Re: I don't like the Windsor knot.
Which windsor don't you like, the half windsor or the full windsor?
I find you have to tie a different knot depending on your dimensions, the tie's dimensions, and your mood.
#14 2007-03-22 10:13:53
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Re: I don't like the Windsor knot.
part of why I dont like the windsor knot is because a standard tie is already short enough on me without wrapping it around several times. I also find with today's woven weights, you can get a fairly substantial knot from the four-in-hand which renders the windsor knot's main appeal moot.
#15 2007-03-22 10:20:57
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Re: I don't like the Windsor knot.
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#16 2007-03-22 10:33:57
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Re: I don't like the Windsor knot.
Am I the only one that thinks you should pick your knot style based upon which one gives the best proportions for your face and neck? I don't understand why anyone would be so anti a specific knot. I use a half-windsor for the sole reason that a four-in-hand looks poor on me because I have a long fave and a large neck. Why would you shoose a knot just for style, i really do not understand this line of thinking.
#19 2007-03-22 11:13:00
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Re: I don't like the Windsor knot.
I do need a long tie, but sometimes i just have to deal with my tie being a bit short. Although, I don't care very much if I am wearing a jacket. Stefano Ricci ties are great for me because they are cut very long. I agree that the full windsor can be a bit ridiculous but I dont really understand the disdain for the half-windsor. I would say I notice as many half-windsors as four-in-hands on a daily basis and most men tie terrible four-in-hands that just make them look lazy in my opinion. I also find the love of the four-in-hand by the dandies of this bored to be a very interesting dichotomy. On one hand you have a group of gentlemen that care more about their clothes and being well put together than 95% of the population and on the other hand they prefer a knot that is asymmetrical and "sloppy". This is very interesting to me. I use both four-in-hands and half-windsors depending upon the thickness of the tie. I think both knots can look good and I like to change it up instead of having the same routine and look 100% of the time.
#22 2007-03-22 12:19:04
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Re: I don't like the Windsor knot.
I agree with everything you just said. My favorite ties are marinella but they really are not long enough, i find myself picking my stefano ricci more and more because they are long and knot so well. I would like to try drakes, what are some of the tiemakers that you like. Has anyone here tried a prince Edward knot?
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#24 2007-03-22 12:48:40
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Re: I don't like the Windsor knot.
Another interesting tie label is Holliday & Brown. Contrary to popular notions on the message boards, I would suggest people to try out their Prada collaboration ties since the patterns are all vintage '60s H&B designs. You can't get that anywhere else.
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