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#1 2012-05-20 05:15:48

Taylor McIntyre
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J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".

 

#2 2012-05-20 05:41:20

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".

Chin up, America - You still have Zach.

 

#3 2012-05-20 06:08:14

woofboxer
Devil's Ivy Advocate
From: The Lost County of Middlesex
Posts: 7959

Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".

There are still some good items in their range, staple garments that they have been selling since the boom years, but overall most of it is not much better than what Brooks Brothers are offering.


'I'm not that keen on the Average Look .......ever'. 
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#4 2012-05-20 06:15:47

Liam Mac
Ivy Avenger
From: Beyond!
Posts: 4789

Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".

God help us if Zach's time machine breaks down.

 

#5 2012-05-20 06:25:02

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".

 

#6 2012-05-20 06:26:13

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".

 

#7 2012-05-20 06:29:44

GIZhou007
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From: Brisbane Australia
Posts: 685

Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".

sad  J Press in Cambridge is my favourite clothes shop in the world that I have visited.  I haven't visited The Suit Room yet.

 

#8 2012-05-20 06:35:15

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".

Give my regards to Denis Black... And then to Charlie a short stroll on.

 

#9 2012-05-20 11:04:22

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".

 

#10 2012-05-20 14:42:32

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".

Quite a stink over this.

Can't see why.

I'm rather proud of certain guys at J. Press for saying that they know better than the product that they are currently expected to sell as J. Press salesmen.

In my book they are the REAL J. Press loyalists.

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- I would try to have the same conversations at Brooks, but who is there still left there who feels as strongly about classic American style ?

 

#11 2012-05-20 16:41:48

GIZhou007
Ivy Original.
From: Brisbane Australia
Posts: 685

Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".

My son is in Hanoi and having a suit made with several fittings.  He followed my advice - SOFT shoulders - otherwise his shoulders will look like the Hulk's.

 

#12 2012-05-20 21:34:08

Oliver
Member
From: San Francisco
Posts: 6321

Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".

The 110th anniversary silk heritage three patch 3/2 sportscoat on their website looks absolutely slayin imo.

 

#13 2012-05-21 02:19:34

Hard Bop Hank
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From: land of a 1000 dances
Posts: 4923

Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#14 2012-05-21 02:22:37

Taylor McIntyre
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Posts: 342

Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".

J. Keydge do indeed supply J. Press.

 

#15 2012-05-21 02:32:40

Hard Bop Hank
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From: land of a 1000 dances
Posts: 4923

Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".

Last edited by Hard Bop Hank (2012-05-21 04:01:39)


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#16 2012-05-21 02:37:23

Hard Bop Hank
Ivy Soul Brother
From: land of a 1000 dances
Posts: 4923

Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#17 2012-05-21 02:46:39

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".

I only know for sure because they have a habit of sending out group emails without hiding the other recipients.

 

#18 2012-05-21 03:04:35

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".

Another famous quote from J. Press off the record is that their jackets "look like they have wings".

But a recent visitor to NYC said that everywhere was just as bad. He only praised a very few bits by Ralph Lauren and Jack Spade in the entire (RTW) city... I checked them out & even they were shite !

Jack Spade was especially awful. Clock this little stinker:

http://www.jackspade.com/Charles-3-Button-Sportcoat/P2RU0515,default,pd.html?dwvar_P2RU0515_color=318&start=7&cgid=clothing-suits-and-sportcoats

 

#19 2012-05-21 03:10:24

Hard Bop Hank
Ivy Soul Brother
From: land of a 1000 dances
Posts: 4923

Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".

It would be interesting to learn a little more about the history of the slack jacket.

I wouldn't be surprised if J.Press had been selling unstructured/ unlined casual jackets before they were supplied by J. Keydge.

Is it an American thing, originally, or a European invention?

Chris Hardy recently had a nice Italian slack jacket in the H&J group, can't remember how old it was...

Thinking about it, I could imagine that the unlined, unstructured slack jacket might be as old as the sack.

Which, again, comes from France ca. 1840s/50s, as far as I know...


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#20 2012-05-21 03:15:36

Hard Bop Hank
Ivy Soul Brother
From: land of a 1000 dances
Posts: 4923

Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#21 2012-05-21 03:29:17

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
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Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".

 

#22 2012-05-21 03:58:57

Hard Bop Hank
Ivy Soul Brother
From: land of a 1000 dances
Posts: 4923

Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#23 2012-05-21 04:10:36

4F Hepcat
THE Cat
Posts: 14333

Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".

Great thread! I have to say I am rather impressed with my one micro-check shirt from modern J.Press. The ties cut the mustard too. Some vintage jacket herringbones and one I got from Woofboxer are superior to any of the vintage Brooks I have. Of course, that's not a definitive sample.


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#24 2012-05-21 04:32:39

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".

I think the good thing about this thread is that it shows that Press aren't actually doing anything 'wrong' - They just aren't doing Traditional American Style / Ivy League Style anymore / just now in the US. They are doing a Europeanised update on their heritage.

The more constructed shoulders are deliberate as are the stiffer shirt collars.

Not sure why Press as a company have been so coy about this officially. All they've done is to be criticised for no longer doing things 'properly' anymore.

They should have included in their recent rebranding an updated mission statement that said they weren't your Grandfather or Father's J. Press anymore and made that a selling point.

Brooks also made a disaster of their dropping of Traditional American style by not being explicit about it. They equally dropped the old Ivy/Trad/Whatever USP to make money. Fair enough, they are a business afterall. But the failure to say we're still Brooks, but we're not the Brooks you know and to sell that as a positive has harmed their reputation. Same with J. Press. Unless you tell people what you're actually up to so they can judge you fairly people will just find the move from American to more European styling on behalf of these brands looking them losing the plot.

So don't 'blame Canada' afterall - If Press wanted Natural Shouldered jackets and shirts with soft collar rolls they'd have them made up there. It's not the manufacturers working for these companies who have made this change, it's the companies themselves.

They just ain't doing kosher American anymore. They want to make some money instead !


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#25 2012-05-21 07:49:21

woofboxer
Devil's Ivy Advocate
From: The Lost County of Middlesex
Posts: 7959

Re: J. Press - "We don't sell Ivy League".


'I'm not that keen on the Average Look .......ever'. 
John Simons

Achievements: banned from the Ivy Style FB Group

 

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