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#1 2007-04-03 11:36:44

John Calvin
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Madras Bow Ties

Hello,

I am new to the forum and would welcome any advice you could give regarding where I might find madras bow ties.  I've already looked at Press and some of the usual places, but I don't like their colors. 

Many thanks.

JC

 

#2 2007-04-03 11:45:31

Will
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Re: Madras Bow Ties

bowties.com has them but you may be disappointed. The Indians don't seem to be exporting the original bleeding madras any longer. The new colorfast stuff takes dyes differently and produces a much brighter tie. I don't care for them.


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#3 2007-04-03 11:53:21

Terry Lean
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Re: Madras Bow Ties

Press had great Madras 2/3 years ago...

Until they do so again you can buy new cheap ugly modern Madras items from Landsend etc & soak them in bleach until they look beautiful.

Madras should never be garish & bright!


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You're going to rise up singing"

 

#4 2007-04-03 12:31:41

John Calvin
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Re: Madras Bow Ties

Does the brightness apply to Madras pants as well?  (I assume it would, given what you say).  It's just that at Yale in the '80s the Madras pants everyone wore seemed pretty darn bright. Perhaps you could give a (photo linked?) example of what you mean by authentic color in Madras?

Many thanks. I appreciate your help. JC

 

#5 2007-04-03 13:05:19

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#6 2007-04-03 15:22:54

Terry Lean
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Re: Madras Bow Ties


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You're going to rise up singing"

 

#7 2007-11-06 00:55:24

Horace
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Re: Madras Bow Ties

Just saw this post:

http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/showpost.php?p=649315&postcount=1

I've been meaning to contact a chum on the Subcontinent to inquire about getting for myself some authentic bleeding madras.


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#8 2007-11-06 16:33:57

Tony Ventresca
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#9 2007-11-06 19:12:13

Coolidge
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Re: Madras Bow Ties

Incredibly hard to find nice ones, bleeding or not.

Last spring I got dad a good one at Press but maybe now they're out of those colors.  You might ask if they have any others available at the other stores?  As you know, not all in the catalog is what is around, always.


Good luck.


EDIT: Just realized this thread is from 6 months ago. I was going to make the comment that one shouldn't be looking for madras in November, but decided to be polite.  Hopefully in the interim he has found something good.

Last edited by Coolidge (2007-11-06 19:16:32)

 

#10 2007-11-06 19:31:36

Vaclav
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Re: Madras Bow Ties

Remember to wash you, bowtie and, cumberbun together or, they will not, align spiritually.

 

#11 2007-11-07 02:27:18

Horace
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Re: Madras Bow Ties


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#12 2007-11-07 02:29:02

Horace
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Re: Madras Bow Ties


""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.

 

#13 2007-11-07 03:07:31

Jack_The_Lad
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Re: Madras Bow Ties

I guess they want it because its 'traditional'...?

... But Madras patterns were originally based on the tartans of the Scotish regiments who were over there. The Indian guys tried to copy the look and got it wrong. They only had vegetable dyes and so their colours faded and ran.

... So to be really really 'traditional' the 'Trads' should all wear kilts instead, not Indian copies of tartans gone wrong.

I've two old bleeding Madras BDs from 'Marco Polo' of all places (They had a shop in the Knightsbridge Arcade opposite Harvey Proctor's 'Shirt-Lifters' shop back in the day - Mid-80's?) and I can honestly say that I'd rather buy the fixed colour shirts & bleach them myself to get any faded looks I might want. Real Indian Madras (as my shirts are) is pretty shitty quality material and the bleeding is a bleeding nuisance. You never know what colours will come to the fore next.

It's Ivy style alright, but the fetish for things because they are 'traditional' isn't.


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#14 2007-11-07 06:49:52

Tony Ventresca
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#15 2007-11-07 15:38:18

Horace
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Re: Madras Bow Ties


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