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#76 2012-08-05 10:52:57

Oliver
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Re: United States Navy 'Dixie Cup', GOB , Bucket Hats

The holy grail of dixie cups  smile

http://www.etsy.com/listing/104311121/vintage-1960s-hawaii-hat-sun-hat-bucket?ref=usr_faveitems&atr_uid=8090896

 

#77 2012-08-05 10:55:35

Oliver
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Re: United States Navy 'Dixie Cup', GOB , Bucket Hats

pre-dyed:

http://www.etsy.com/listing/103350116/navy-knit-paco-hat-size-medium?ref=usr_faveitems&atr_uid=8090896

 

#78 2012-08-05 11:04:04

jesmond
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Re: United States Navy 'Dixie Cup', GOB , Bucket Hats

$ 30.00 ?   Poly blend?

It just goes to show.

 

#79 2012-08-06 02:59:44

Taylor McIntyre
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#80 2012-08-06 03:34:14

jesmond
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Re: United States Navy 'Dixie Cup', GOB , Bucket Hats

Jim, i`ve checked out that video; i`m almost certain that the two respective white bucket hats are not proper naval issue.


The (US) Navy hats , when worn as bucket hats, form more of a continuous line. The brims are not as flared as with 99% of bucket hats.


The bucket hat that i posted a pic of, i will keep in that style, i think.

I was working on another white bucket hat, last night. I was turning it inside out, continuously, to soften up the card like brim.

The brim has now become very supple and floppy. I was pinching up the very edge of  the brim a few times, too: turning it back about a quarter of an inch; right along the whole length. It helped along that skirt or flared appearance/ line. The lid effect.


I suppose its like sack sports coats; the charm of this style is is in the pleasing breaking down of sympathetic form structures.

I actually really LIKE these bucket hats when they are really softened up. The brims will splay and flare out more; when you work on beating them up; but not nearly as much as usual bucket hats...


It`s THAT very point about them, that i think makes them so interesting and attractive.


I think i may coffee-dye one, just a little; just to take that edge off the white colour.

Last edited by jesmond (2012-08-06 07:35:15)

 

#81 2012-08-06 04:16:09

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#82 2012-08-06 04:49:36

jesmond
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Re: United States Navy 'Dixie Cup', GOB , Bucket Hats

Like it !

 

#83 2012-08-06 13:09:54

Taylor McIntyre
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#84 2012-08-06 14:08:33

jesmond
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Re: United States Navy 'Dixie Cup', GOB , Bucket Hats

I was repeatedly turning that hat inside out, last night; and crushing the brim: through flattening it, from all sides, in order to knead out the stiffness. The wide brim material is now really supple ( but I think I can work on it more, and get it more supple and floppy; and less, like it was, like card).

The finishing touch was to make a very narrow turn-up for the edge of the brim; a couple of times:  to cultivate a bit of an outward curl to the brim ( and silhouette).

It's funny but the shape and silhouette reminded me,particularly, of the KANGOL style bucket hat.


I really think the styling, with these naval issue bucket hats, is one hell of a lot better...

Its no exagerration to say, that they really are the idealised, cool, bucket hat that I'd had an imaginary conception of, in my head; come to life. The hat that I'd imagined and WANTED to buy, but didn't know where; didn't know existed.

I'd looked at countless bucket hats, but none were quite right. If it wasn't for these naval issue versions, I don't think I would have had the inclination to buy the 'usual' style.

There IS something very jazzy, very 50s and very nonchalant about these particular hats. They feel very NOW, because the look is subtly fresh and classic.

Once again, I put it down to the continuous, un-interrupted, (very subtly arched) line of the hat , in silhouette .

These may remind me just a little of KANGOL style bucket hats, but really, for me, there is no comparison. The way I feel, at the moment, these really are the DEFINITIVE, cool style of bucket hat, for me, personally.

People wouldn't look twice at anyone wearing any KANGOL bucket hat. It is a pedestrian, commonplace look. I dont even find the kangol hats that aesthetically appealing.These hats, subtly, quicken the blood of appraisers, in my (short) experience. Because they are freeform in the way you choose to shape them; they make a very  fresh, flexible, and personal style  statement. You can't pin these hats down. ( always something to stylistically aim for, in my book).

I was monitoring the reaction today. I would say it was definitely one of positive curiosity. It was definitely noticed as being ,somehow, subtly different. I think people didn't quite know why. Wasn't it just one of those bucket style hats? And yet, I felt as though others thought it suited me.

Well, I think they're cool.

The silhouette is kind of like a bell shape; with a very subtle flaring at the bottom of the brim ( like a lid).

Last edited by jesmond (2012-08-06 23:26:05)

 

#85 2012-08-06 14:24:47

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: United States Navy 'Dixie Cup', GOB , Bucket Hats

Out on a limb - And they must be the original of the form ?????

J.

 

#86 2012-08-06 14:50:39

jesmond
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Re: United States Navy 'Dixie Cup', GOB , Bucket Hats

I've really no idea.

But, they have been used, in that recognisable form, for a hundred years or more?


As a sun hat, or , perhaps, rain hat, maybe?

 

#87 2012-08-09 07:41:18

jesmond
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Re: United States Navy 'Dixie Cup', GOB , Bucket Hats

Update:


Ive just coffee dyed an untouched Dixie Cup hat.


I bought a new tin of Nescafé Classic coffee granules.


I got a plastic bucket, washed it out and then filled it up to just under half full, with lukewarm water. The water was a little hot, but comfortable enough to put my hands in. ( I don't want shrinkage).


I used 2 full cups of coffee. Stirred the coffee with a big metal sieve spoon , and then submerged the hat , with the big metal spoon resting on the hat as a weight , keeping it dunked.


I brought the bucket into my bedroom and periodically checked the darkening, dyeing colour of the hat  against various sweat shirts, t shirts, shirts, cardigans and blousons(!) in my wardrobe. I wanted to aim for a versatile colour that would go with light, medium and dark colours.


Well, remember that the dyeing colour will be a couple of shades darker than the rinsed, finish result.

I thought that I'd give the dyeing process 1 hour .

After an hour of dyeing, I added two tablespoons of vinegar to the bucket, to set the desired colour. I waited a further 15 mins before rinsing the hat under cold water.


The hat is currently drying out , naturally, on a plastic chair, outside on my balcony.


The colour result?

The dyed effect looks very good. It's an old school, dyed effect. It's a militaristic, masculine, tonal beige.


I'm happy with the result. I don't think the hat will have shrunk at all.

For the OPTIMUM colour, I think I could even have left it in the bucket for about another 15 mins.

 

#88 2012-08-09 08:36:28

Axelist
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Re: United States Navy 'Dixie Cup', GOB , Bucket Hats

I really can't figure out how the result looks, lack of imagination. Pics? ;>

Sounds great, and fun. Thank you for describing how you dyed them. You'll never know.


Just to get a repp..

 

#89 2012-08-09 08:38:05

jesmond
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#90 2012-08-09 08:46:42

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Re: United States Navy 'Dixie Cup', GOB , Bucket Hats


Just to get a repp..

 

#91 2012-08-09 09:08:38

jesmond
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Re: United States Navy 'Dixie Cup', GOB , Bucket Hats

Try it!!


( you might just like it  smile)

The colour is great, though. Really looking good...

 

#92 2012-08-19 06:07:23

Axelist
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Re: United States Navy 'Dixie Cup', GOB , Bucket Hats

O.K., just bought one from a seller in Germany. No transatlantic hassle. Have some instant coffee left from the holiday. Ready to go when it arrives.


Just to get a repp..

 

#93 2012-08-19 09:04:40

Oliver
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Re: United States Navy 'Dixie Cup', GOB , Bucket Hats

36c and off to the beaches in Tel Aviv!

http://instagr.am/p/Og33CPzWuP/

 

#94 2012-08-19 09:50:09

jesmond
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Re: United States Navy 'Dixie Cup', GOB , Bucket Hats

Last edited by jesmond (2012-08-19 10:13:17)

 

#95 2012-08-19 10:12:03

jesmond
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#96 2012-08-19 12:34:48

Axelist
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Re: United States Navy 'Dixie Cup', GOB , Bucket Hats


Just to get a repp..

 

#97 2012-08-19 13:20:06

jesmond
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Re: United States Navy 'Dixie Cup', GOB , Bucket Hats

The dyeing works Axelist.

I found that the colour on the  inside of my dyed hat is flawless and even; although just slightly lighter in its shade of colour.

The visible, outside of the hat has subtle blemishes and feint tide marks (?) that go to give it more of an aged, well worn  (colouring effect) look.

I may turn my next hat inside out before dyeing.

Last edited by jesmond (2012-08-19 13:31:05)

 

#98 2012-08-20 02:29:38

jesmond
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Re: United States Navy 'Dixie Cup', GOB , Bucket Hats

http://instagr.am/p/Oiv9nSjOhE/

http://instagr.am/p/OivXC2jOg5/

http://instagr.am/p/OhCaGwjOh9/

http://instagr.am/p/Oiw7wdDOhg/

 

#99 2012-08-20 04:17:42

The Woolster
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Re: United States Navy 'Dixie Cup', GOB , Bucket Hats

Lovely photos Jesmond and Oliver! I'm now sold on getting one too.

 

#100 2012-08-20 04:21:40

jesmond
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Re: United States Navy 'Dixie Cup', GOB , Bucket Hats

Thanks a lot, Woolster. You're a free spirit, too, I think you'll like them.


Have fun!

 
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