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#26 2007-04-02 15:55:29

Tony Ventresca
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#27 2007-04-02 16:05:43

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#28 2007-04-02 16:14:42

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It's hard for me to figure out who the intended audience is for these ads...they are too "white" to appeal to minorities, most whites don't want to look like this (preferring urban looks instead), and the whites who do dress like this, well isn't that just preaching to the choir?  Perhaps there is a large market of "in-transitionals" who are ready to hang up their Rocawear in favor of more "classic" attire.  Maybe Gant is the first of several baby steps

 

#29 2007-04-02 18:16:49

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This isn't so much "lifestyle" as it is just marketing survival.  What are their alternatives?  Put the models in their clothes against a plain white background, copying GAP directly?  Or do you want them to throw the guys in a high school or backyard suburban setting - which would look exactly like a JC Penney pullout from the Times, and perhaps bring their entire brand crashing down.  At this point this is a generic widespread upscale/preppy look, and like Terry said they're executing it pretty similarly to Polo.

How many genres of men's clothes marketing are there anyway?  There's this preppy stuff, there's the urban stuff like Eccho and whatever else that appears every other page in SLAM, there's the jet-set stuff like Armani and whatever other more expensive brands, there's the ones that focus on the clothing more (GAP, maybe Prada?), there's quirky/retarded (Old Navy, the copying of which would be too blatant).  I can't think of any others but they may be out there.

The impression I get from these Gant ads is that they're aiming for a more youthful market than in the past - I remember the brand as an alternative to Polo and Hillfiger(before it became super-ghettoized) in the mid-ninties when I was in hs, sold in the same department stores, but I considered it more of an old man brand.  With the preppy stuff getting bigger among young people now I guess they're just adjusting and trying to get a piece of that market.

 

#30 2007-04-03 01:50:19

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#31 2007-04-03 01:54:05

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'Pimp' would be 'Hard-Edged-Young'/'Money'/'Creative'.


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#32 2007-04-03 02:02:02

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Gant must be the poor man's Ralph Lauren; but the uncanny similarities between these ads and J.Crew's basic appeal is evident.

I suspect these ads appeal to the aspirational average professional who wants his Babbitt lifestyle but who just isn't as good-looking as these people.

The most successful marketing campaign, I believe, hasn't been modern cars and their "improvements" or Rolex watches, but rather the idea of "classic taste for the discerning individual" that we see in the Kiton fest that is the Men's Clothing forums. The forumspeak, so to say, is undermining any ideas of individuality, only garnering distinction for those able to afford the Kiton bespoke or that understated Patek watch.

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#33 2007-04-03 04:27:09

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#34 2007-04-03 04:32:07

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"One of these mornings
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#35 2007-04-03 07:03:31

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#36 2007-04-03 08:29:53

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The Gant store here on 5th Avenue employs a very large, burly, well-dressed black man as security/doorman. When you walk into the store, he opens the door and greets you amicably but not too amicably. He looks like many of the bodyguards in the employ of the likes of Britney Spears, Maddona etc etc.  He is definitely a "lifestyle" hire. Walk in the door of the store and your own personal bodyguard/doorman is there waiting.  To me Gant is the "American" version of Ralph Lauren in the same way that Faconnabe attempts to be the "Euro" version of Ralph Lauren. The question, of course is, what the hell is Ralph Lauren (my answer is "whatever you need it to be"). BTW, I am a fan of some of the RL lines.

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#37 2007-04-03 08:40:58

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#38 2007-04-03 09:25:28

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#39 2007-04-03 10:01:48

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#40 2007-04-03 10:43:57

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#41 2007-04-03 14:21:56

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#42 2007-04-03 15:25:51

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Cooly keeps me grounded.


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#43 2007-04-12 15:38:55

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Ol Boys,

Whilst perusing preppyjournal.com after Terry's recent thread, I came across the below write-up of the new Bennetton line. 

These chaps make the Gant models look like he-men.  They must be marketing to the gender confused crowd (not that there is anything wrong with that, right Manton?).

Cheers,
Trip



http://preppyjournal.com/node/768?PHPSESSID=1c359c4e3eee61cc6221fcc201142a87

 

#44 2007-04-12 20:22:29

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#45 2007-04-13 09:26:27

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Me? Conspicuous? Lady, I'm the invisible man.

 

#46 2007-04-13 13:58:16

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"One of these mornings
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#47 2007-04-13 14:03:38

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"One of these mornings
You're going to rise up singing"

 

#48 2007-05-11 08:48:37

Tony Ventresca
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#49 2007-05-11 10:56:00

bandofoutsiders
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Good lord I want a slim seersucker suit.  Damn those admen.  Personally I find the totality of those lifestyle ads.  it turns me off to the clothing, or rather, the outfit.  there are pieces i would like but the whole thing is just too much.  it almost becomes a parody of prep instead of a representation.  Not to be too poststructuralist about it, but the idea of prep is so clouded by advertizing that it is probably impossible to reach the core of prephood, even if such existed.  What was "prep" in 1960s seems edgy now to me.  The Gant stuff just looks like a Nantucket look sold to people who have never been near nantucket.  However, the people actually on Nantucket could look at the ad, reappropriate themselves to it, and thus the projection becomes the reality.  It's more dictation than representation.

 

#50 2007-05-12 15:01:44

Tony Ventresca
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Bandofwhatever, your comment on the "elites" adopting (after-the-fact) the clothes with which they have been associated by advertisers, was a very useful idea for me. It makes sense, as once they might have worn normal plain tennis shirts but now will wear Polo tennis shirts with horse logo.

In other news...I just noticed today some print ads for Samuelsohn and Canali which show a serious American preppy influence. I will try to find some images.

Maybe Terry & his associates are right, and we are in for a revival.

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