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#1 2012-10-09 12:30:28

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A Rolex/Tudor Alternative

If you must have one, but are cash strapped, then one can do no wrong in purchasing a MK II Nassau for under US $900:

http://www.mkiiwatches.com/watch-collections/specialist-series/nassau/

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f325/shipment-mkii-way-nassau-710384-2.html

The only problem I can think of, is if you can live with the thought of others knowing you want a chunky-pimp Rolex, but can't afford one.

But I admit they look good, and I am tempted, perhaps even more so with the marketing spin referencing all that spirit of the late 50s.


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#2 2012-10-09 15:41:37

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Re: A Rolex/Tudor Alternative


"McQueen's message was signaled through subtraction... in a tweed or herringbone jacket and a ribbed swearer he had an electric austerity".

 

#3 2012-10-09 17:51:43

Ed13
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Re: A Rolex/Tudor Alternative

Basic Rolex's are decent quality and look good but overpriced.  They also have that wannabe connotation.  Good marketing but I wouldn't buy one.

 

#4 2012-10-09 23:27:34

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Re: A Rolex/Tudor Alternative

It would be interesting to see a comparison between the MKII Nassau and a modern Submariner.

After the latest meddling with the Explorer I, there's not a watch in the modern Rolex range you can wear without being associated with shallow glitz, aspirational and the dreaded "lifestyle" marketing contagion. Omega have done a better job with keeping true to the tradition with the Speedmaster (with the exception of the redux version with the add calibration that is unreliable).

They do seem over priced, especially when you look at some of the other high end watch makers operating in similar price ranges to Rolex.

Nevertheless, the Oyster case and the basic Submariner are mid-20th century design classics, but as Horace once said, he doesn't wear his anymore because its embarrassing.

I've been following the MKII watch brand for awhile now, they get good write-ups in the watch forums and I wished I had purchased the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms cloned Stingray, as this looked magnificent. I had the Eddie Platts Prescista version which was good, but I don't think in the same league as the MKII.

In any event, there's no chance of me purchasing a Rolex Submariner, even if I wanted one, as my money is focused on other projects and investments at the moment. Not to mention the missus would go nuts. Still, the MKII is definitely tempting and has all the aesthetic benefits of a Submariner, without any of the negative connotations of brand association and cost.


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#5 2012-10-11 04:49:20

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Re: A Rolex/Tudor Alternative

Unlike most watches, Rolexes hold their value.  I sold mine several years after acquiring it for the same price.


"‘The sense of being perfectly well dressed gives a feeling of inner tranquility which even religion is powerless to bestow." Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not."  Oscar Wilde

 

#6 2012-10-11 05:18:11

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Re: A Rolex/Tudor Alternative

That much is true, and Rolex themselves buy-up surplus vintage stock to ensure a limited market and that the phenomena of second hand Rolex's eventually become more expensive that what you paid for it, continues. The fact is, on the basis of units shifted, Rolex watches are pretty much abundant and their perceived exclusivity is based on quality and price, not how many there are out there in the universe.

And one thing for sure, a service on a MKII watch isn't going to cost you GBP 800+.


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#7 2012-10-11 09:16:29

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"‘The sense of being perfectly well dressed gives a feeling of inner tranquility which even religion is powerless to bestow." Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not."  Oscar Wilde

 

#8 2012-10-11 10:57:42

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That again may be so, but how much exceptional and sycophantic customer focus do you need when dropping off a watch for a service?


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#9 2012-10-11 14:36:24

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Re: A Rolex/Tudor Alternative

The "sycophantic" watch service at Rolex takes about an hour.  The pariah watch service at Patek can take several months to a year.

Last edited by Marc Grayson (2012-10-11 17:58:58)


"‘The sense of being perfectly well dressed gives a feeling of inner tranquility which even religion is powerless to bestow." Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not."  Oscar Wilde

 

#10 2012-10-11 14:44:02

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Re: A Rolex/Tudor Alternative

Seriously, what is it about Rolex? I am sure it's a good watch but why is there so much love for them? They simply are not very pretty to look at. Is that it - the brute factor? And I don't mean any offense to anyone by saying this.

I fell like such an outsider when the topic of Rolex pops up so help me see what you see.



Btw here is the watch that moves my heart (this is the womens' version but the mens is exactly the same only slightly bigger).

http://www.chopard.com/imperiale/index.php/en/#!/univers/forever


In white gold it is simply stunning. Unfortunately out of my price range and the wife would kill me

 

#11 2012-10-11 16:23:36

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Re: A Rolex/Tudor Alternative


"The less taste a person has in dress, the more obstinate he always seems to be. It is a great pity. Because he will never be a success as it" - Jerome K Jerome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVHUA4dZI0o&feature=related

 

#12 2012-10-11 18:00:06

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Re: A Rolex/Tudor Alternative


"‘The sense of being perfectly well dressed gives a feeling of inner tranquility which even religion is powerless to bestow." Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not."  Oscar Wilde

 

#13 2012-10-12 00:52:20

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#14 2012-10-12 01:20:19

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#15 2012-10-12 02:59:18

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#16 2012-10-12 05:41:25

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#17 2012-10-12 12:00:31

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^Thankfully, those who travel to Thailand now tend to stay there having become infatuated with the meta-amphetamine and local lady boys. And long may Pattaya beach and its delights remain a magnet for weirdos and pervs. Better there than over here.


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#18 2012-10-12 13:27:09

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Re: A Rolex/Tudor Alternative


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

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#19 2012-10-12 21:58:07

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Re: A Rolex/Tudor Alternative

The IWC Spitfire is an excellent range, and I've been tempted a couple of times.

Longines are good honest watches, I've the Conquest 1959 re-edition and looks the part and keeps excellent time.

The problem with complicated and pedigree watches are the extreme service costs. There's a watch seller in the Hague I go to occasionally, and he gets some real expensive watches in that people want to sell because they can't afford the two grand official service costs.


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#20 2012-10-13 06:35:03

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Re: A Rolex/Tudor Alternative


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

Souvent me Souvient

 

#21 2012-10-13 07:21:16

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#22 2012-10-13 08:41:38

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Re: A Rolex/Tudor Alternative


"McQueen's message was signaled through subtraction... in a tweed or herringbone jacket and a ribbed swearer he had an electric austerity".

 

#23 2012-10-14 07:40:46

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Cógelo suave, pero cógelo.

 

#24 2012-10-15 00:41:35

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Re: A Rolex/Tudor Alternative

I must say, I was looking through the Rolex blogspot that Steve McQueen Fan had posted, and the Oyster that Dr King wore looked tremendous and suited his grace under pressure in the photos. Defiant, graceful yet strong.

Shame I continued to roll down and then up-popped Bono, you cannot seriously follow the late great Dr King with Bono.


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#25 2012-10-15 07:01:29

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Re: A Rolex/Tudor Alternative


"McQueen's message was signaled through subtraction... in a tweed or herringbone jacket and a ribbed swearer he had an electric austerity".

 

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