Last edited by My Grandfather's Pants (2012-10-18 15:42:45)
That doesn't look bad. I'm not a fan of football buttons unless they're on knitwear or casual garments, hate them on tweed jackets they just look odd unless your over the age of 50 IMO.
Me like the bottom.
I ran across a couple of those last year. Kind of hitting myself in the head for not getting one.
Last edited by 12BarBlues (2012-10-18 22:12:05)
I don't think they deliver to the UK, it appears to be either Hansens or Greenspan over here. otherwise type Pendleton/Rockabilly, into eBay, which brings original versions of the above.
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The nicer tweed jackets on both sides of the pond seem to have horn buttons, which is pretty much the classic British tradition.
Both leather and horn buttons seem to to turn up on vintage US tweed sack jackets, so probably more a matter of taste as opposed to authenticity.
I don't doubt the US tweed jackets also had football buttons and of course you will know better than I do. I just see them so much here on tweed jackets that I would just rather not have them on my own jacket. I'd much rather have horn. Really I just don't want to look too samey.
And yes you're right about taste and authenticity. More accurately it probably comes down to my warped perception of authenticity, which I'm always trying to straighten out. As I'm sure we all are.
... and I'm not suggesting that by wearing a sack with football buttons I would instantly look like a landowners son. I meant, if I went the whole UK tweed jacket route.
That would be a no for me too. Cord already has geography teacher connotations, football buttons or suede elbow patches but it firmly in that territory for me. I do love a nice bit of cord though. A cord sack is on e of my wants ATM.
I'm currently thinking of the horn buttoned Cord & Tweed Ivy Keydges as the ultimate subversion of this genre...
Couldn't be less 'Country' if they tried.
Surely it all depends on the cut?
A farm/landowner in his shapeless moleskins would look way different to chap in a pair of slim fit moleskins with frogmouth pockets, much as your average farmer/landowner would look different in his battered and worn wax jacket than a chap in a bedded in wax jacket, be that International style or Bedale.
Much as the Keydges are a million miles from country, so too can Wax Jackets and Moleskins - of which I wear both.
I've never really had a problem with them, in fact I quite like them, I can see what H means, but I don't know, maybe it's the countryside round me, again I haven't got a problem with moleskin either. I've always liked the look of British clothing in terms of fabrics, patterns and colours, just never been too keen on the cut, saying that there seems to be a few examples kicking round the internet of old soft shouldered, 3-button tweed jackets, that'd I'd happily wear. That Kevin and Howlin one for a start. (ok that's Irish but still)
Last edited by My Grandfather's Pants (2012-10-19 10:56:37)
I am sort of in the middle of all of your views. I do not own a Wax or tweed jacket but have plenty of Corduroy and a lovely pair of Moleskin Chinos with Frogmouth pockets that i bring out when it gets very cold.
The only problem is a lot of people do not know what Moleskin is and i have had quite a few over the years ask me if they are suede. I always reply “do i look like the type of bloke who would wear suede trouser”? Tattersall’s with a spread collar i find boring old country fart territory but with a button down i like very much. What are the views of that quintessential British Garb the Rugby shirt?
You could be mistaken for a Tim nice but Dim in one i suppose.
I'm fine with Ruggers and 5-ps, inna West Coast style, I suppose again it comes down to the details, because garments cross various styles but get warn in different ways.
A bean rugger and some nice tapered 519's is different than, a Hackett Rugger, and some baggy Gant 5p's with puddles.
I want to dress/look Ivy/Americana, and spend hours trawling for stuff in my size. If I want to dress like an Englishman, there are three shops within 10 minutes walk where I can be kitted out.
Ah. Here we are. To some extent. Topster was a name I did not know until early this morning, when TRS put me onto them. Yes, I could see myself sporting one. although I would still prefer something in cotton in spite of Yuca's warnings/reservations (which are doubtless entirely justified). There are days, generally in warmer weather, when I would like to wear a distinctively American, resort-type jacket if only to make the gulag/Primark types that surround me raise an eyebrow or even mutter darkly about... whatever they mutter about... They really ought to have letters and numbers stencilled on their backs...
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A couple of Pendleton Topsters have now come up on Ebay, both sold by the same UK seller. If only they were a different colour/pattern instead of reminding me just a little too much of, say, Filson or the older Pendleton plaid I was wearing in around 2007.
Does anyone favour them?
The best of the two on offer was about £90. Reasonable enough.