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#26 2012-12-09 10:54:21

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It is apparent that a dedicated team with a warehouse of period clothes, research material and period machinery, who clearly posses infinitely more talent, experience and skill than you or I ever will, produced some very well researched period clothing for the show.

Probably the biggest undertaking ever for a TV series, and better than pretty much any film has bothered to do in the last ten/fifteen years. An example being The Great Gatsby remake, which was terrible on the clothes front. I'm sure you'd find something of interest in their work and research if you took the time. Period swatches and tailoring catalogues etc. Interviews with the tailors who were producing the suits and how they were constrained by time schedules.

I'm not saying I subjectively appreciate what they've produced or have any reckoning to what was going through the mind of a 1920's criminal, and their sartorial acquisitions. But from what I've read about the work on this series they took a great deal of time and effort, like I said which is completely lacking on most TV and film productions.

You're less likely to draw knowledge or information from just watching the show, but maybe actually looking into the work behind the scenes.

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#27 2012-12-09 13:02:50

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#28 2012-12-09 13:10:45

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So basically a decent costume department is surplus to requirements? My point was you assumed that this was some fly by night operation, but if you took the time to look at it, you'd have realised it wasn't and in fact the guys on the show held one of the largest collections of American period clothes from the 20's and 30's. I find that interesting, and I guess others might too. How that effects what people wear to day wasn't my point.

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#29 2012-12-09 14:00:09

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#30 2012-12-09 14:06:40

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I'm not really bothered about the awards either, but I did take the time to learn about their operation, (mainly because the period interests me, more than the show which I haven't got into). I found what they discovered from their research was interesting, and also the way they produced the clothes.

If you looked into it, you'd understand why your impressions are what they are, and how they had to concede to time constraints with the tailoring.


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#31 2012-12-09 14:31:19

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You will rarely find impeccable tailoring in TV/film these days, there just isn't the amount of craftspeople around to make this so. This is probably the reason that Bond isn't dressed by Savile Row.

I don't want us to get to hung up on this though, chaps.

I wasn't aware of this show as said. I rarely watch TV.

...but what I found interesting is the range of colours an patterns on display. The roaring 20's was a very glamorous age, the height of Art Deco.

Its clear, well to me anyway that the wardrobe has gone to considerable trouble in this series and have done a sterling job in light of the obvious time constraints inherent in filming.

Can we learn anything from this show, however. Can we abstract something out of it?


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#32 2012-12-09 14:35:57

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THe researchers themselves said they were shocked at the vibrancy of the period clothes they received as they began to work on the show, I suppose like with all of us they only knew of the period as being black and white. So going from what they learnt from these clothes you have to assume it was the in the nature of most of the character clothes to be very loud


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#33 2012-12-09 14:41:14

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Or you could just assume that the clothes that survived from that period were the loud ones, by way of them being more exciting and collectable over the years?


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#34 2012-12-09 14:48:34

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#35 2012-12-09 14:56:39

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Well again, in the link I posted they answer a lot of these questions as they discuss how they chose the clothing for the characters.

But I  think it is in the interest of the programme to be visually exciting, so whether or not it followers the folklore surrounding the gangsters. I do think the wardrobe has to appease that element of the show.


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#36 2012-12-10 05:17:09

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I have noticed a bit of neck gape on some of Nucky's jackets. Surprising when they are tailored by Greenfields.

That psychotic who got knifed in the last episode "the goo goo with the goo goo eyes" had an interesting green suit almost a tonic material.

 

#37 2012-12-10 06:19:43

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#38 2012-12-10 07:06:11

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^I think it is a seriously good film, despite Parker shunning it at times during interviews. A great atmosphere throughout: wardrobe, mise-en-scene and songs. The script could have been played by adults and the custard pie guns could have easily been replaced with tommy guns.


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#39 2012-12-10 07:18:32

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We dont need any of the clothes we buy except as a means to be the star in the film of our life populated by constructs  - FNB

 

#40 2012-12-10 08:15:36

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Daniel Craig looks as though he has adopted , in private life, the Thomas-Mahon-Football-Star look - drainpipes and close jacketssome even three piece - which at least fit - the clothes in the films (Ford?) are dreadful. With those pneumatic muscles and the skinhead haircut, Craig looks more like a slightly short bouncer than a naval officer.


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#41 2012-12-11 08:04:45

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#42 2012-12-11 09:12:06

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^At least with Moore, you knew he was dressing like his version of Bond in real life and made it more interesting.

Craig doesn't in anyway shape or form, pass for an ex-naval officer. That's one of the reasons I was an early advocator for the removal of Craig from the production of the Bond franchise. That too would have been the problem with Lewis Collins had he been successful in playing Bond in the early 80s, but at least with Collins, he could pass for a sergeant or NCO.


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#43 2012-12-11 09:23:21

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#44 2012-12-11 09:47:54

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We dont need any of the clothes we buy except as a means to be the star in the film of our life populated by constructs  - FNB

 

#45 2012-12-11 10:20:33

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#46 2012-12-11 10:30:10

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#47 2012-12-11 18:21:19

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#48 2012-12-11 18:29:25

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Is Greenfield really that good? He dresses a lot of people.

 

#49 2012-12-12 04:29:58

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#50 2012-12-12 05:03:30

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I'm Reckless Reggie of the Regent Palace,
I'm in love with every gal;
I flirt with Maudie and I flirt with Alice,
I'm a real life Regent's pal.

 

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