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A suit was universal. You got suited and booted to go down the pub. Hudson Road Mills in Leeds was a vast place where Burton knocked out MTM for the High Street. Dissatisfaction with MTM - having to take it back, poor fitting etc. - allowed Marks and Sparks to get a good foothold in the RTW market. At the same time youth was turning away from the suit.
There was no such thing as specific working clothes for many - just best clothes that had been demoted to workwear. Hence farmers and men on building sites wearing old suits.
Time for me to retell one of my stories: Yet again.
I still have a Navy Blue wide spaced pinstripe vest from a 3 piece DB suit of my fathers.
It has his name on it and the date - 1949.
He was just married in his early 30s.
It was MTM by Fletcher Jones an old Australian clothes maker.
I remember him telling me he always had 3 fittings. He had left school at 14 - the most educated of his family of 12, been a labourer and later a self taught carpenter.
He told me that in his early 20s he was an itinerant worker around farms, no fixed address across Victoria, humping his bluey as we say, and around the Warrnambool district - Fletcher Jones would come along traveling to wherever he was working and measure him up for his suit and also subsequent fittings. This was in the 40s.
He regarded a suit as a fact of life. And a properly made one at that.
None of that family had ever finished secondary school. None owned a house
The previous generation couldn't read or write - all the men had suits.
I've always held that the suit is probably the most democratic of outfits.
I know my missus is secretly jealous of my shoe collection and the strange way, that through purchasing quality merchandise, the shoes last longer than a season.
Her recent foray into Italian designer plastic shoes that imitate real leather, yet never require polishing, is an apt case in point. A mere morning's wear and she feels like she has swimming pools on each foot.
^ Best spam post ever! LOL
I will resist the temptation to post an obvious response...
When you say they show real irony and wit, what do you mean? Do you have examples.
Plastic surgeons are the bumpkins of the medical profession, no one really has any respect for them, which is probably why they are so hell bent on dressing "well". You aren't well dressed if your suit looks expensive or if you appreciate shiny things in any other profession except maybe residential real estate in LA.
About your country club--the suits you see are the lawyers and finance guys? But then they wear hunting motif ties at the club? Is this what you are saying--that paragraph is a little muddled.
Yes, you enjoy dressing up--good for you..what a shocker considering the context.
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As usual, Filmnoir has nothing useful to add...
I think formby's comments are a little stereotypical...At the top end of all luxury goods hand made is important--as is custom, bespoke or whatever you like to call it. I know many a Italian that like the so called english cut. So it doesn't really work out as neatly, but one thing is for sure SR bespoke is overpriced. It would be silly not to think so, SR firms are brands--not as tacky as gucci or filmnoirbuff but it is still a brand