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#1 2013-01-08 05:12:36

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'Call me Dave' on fashion

http://fashion.telegraph.co.uk/article/TMG9786722/Blame-Samantha-says-David-Cameron-as-he-confesses-his-crimes-against-fashion.html

A useful response that will play well.

Anthony Eden was the conservative dandy but he is now reviled for his time as prime minister. Dave is 'useless' rather than 'catastrophic'.


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#2 2013-01-08 05:32:09

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Re: 'Call me Dave' on fashion

He actually admitted that his wife chooses his clothes. Pathetic. Dressed by mum, dressed by wifey. She looks to dress quite well. I would.


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#3 2013-01-08 05:48:45

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Re: 'Call me Dave' on fashion

When shops were open for six days a week many working men would not have time to buy their own clothes apart from to get fitted for a suit once in a blue moon.


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#4 2013-01-08 05:50:47

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Re: 'Call me Dave' on fashion

Really? Not even on a Saturday?


We dont need any of the clothes we buy except as a means to be the star in the film of our life populated by constructs  - FNB

 

#5 2013-01-08 06:00:34

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Men worked Saturday - even office workers did a half day. My father worked construction and often did 7 day weeks. Overtime was more important than buying clothes. Your wife could do that.


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#6 2013-01-08 06:13:57

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Ah, I'd not really considered that.

So all those admirable looking chaps we see in old photo's were all dressed by their wives? Ouch.

I normally consider guys who let their wives shop for them to be idiotic.


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#7 2013-01-08 06:17:51

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Re: 'Call me Dave' on fashion

Last edited by RobbieB (2013-01-08 06:19:22)


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#8 2013-01-08 06:22:50

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Re: 'Call me Dave' on fashion

Possibly, but maybe running the country has first call on his time?

He could get Anderson Shepherd to visit number 10 in the morning before he starts work like Prince Charles, but Savile Row might seem elitist to some. It is a difficult one.


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#9 2013-01-08 06:45:32

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Re: 'Call me Dave' on fashion

Chuka Umanna (sp?) gets enough stick about his expensive suits and they're just from one of those visiting outfits that wheels the trolley case around.

I think Cameron could get away with proper tailoring if he was up front about it.  Most people expect their representatives to look smart.  I guess that he's either genuinely too busy and not interested in how he looks or he's too worried about the PR.  I don't remember any fuss about him wearing a morning suit to the royal wedding though.

If you go too far the other way you just end up looking rude and thick, like Gordon Brown in his lounge suits at Mansion House.

 

#10 2013-01-08 07:05:52

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Its not just the suits. The shirts and ties are bland. May be it is down to PR. Clegg dresses the same. I once saw Enoch Powell outside Carmelite House in Blackfriars. The man looked stunning. He carried off the Edwardian look well. But then he never climbed to the top of the greasy pole. Chuka always looks far too pleased with himself and his clothes reflect that. I know its a bit of a cliche but clothes maketh the man.


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#11 2013-01-08 07:23:58

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That's true.  All three leaders' ties are horrible.  There is obviously some PR pronouncement that only plain ties shousld be worn - see also Obama and Romney.

 

#12 2013-01-08 08:13:38

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"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#13 2013-01-08 08:24:19

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Re: 'Call me Dave' on fashion

There's a genuine fear amongst the political establishment of appearing too flamboyant or sartorially elegant, as it may cost votes or mass appeal in a culture where the suit and tie is effectively insignificant and dead.

They keep the suit, but drab it down to appeal to the poor huddled silent majority who shop for their clothes from George at ASDA.

It's a uniform of dowdiness, whilst all the rent boy, brown envelopes and autoeroticism action goes on behind closed doors. The Italians are a bit more blatant with their filthy dealings.


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#14 2013-01-08 08:41:25

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Dowdiness rules OK. The man on the street is happy looking bedraggled. Nobody dresses to impress these days.


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#15 2013-01-08 08:49:25

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That much is true Kingy, but one only needs to read of the all too apparent random acts of violence in Blighty, to consider any overt display of sartorial refinery is likely to get you noticed and your head kicked in or knifed by the local disgruntled white underclass/Somalian war lord/ex-child soldier/local schizoid/second generation immigrant/drug crazed youths. There's a certain logic in dressing to blend into the grey buildings and background.


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#16 2013-01-08 08:53:46

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^ Yes undoubtedly true. It was not always the case though.


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#17 2013-01-08 09:11:57

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'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.

 

#18 2013-01-08 09:26:04

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Re: 'Call me Dave' on fashion

The only smartly dressed politican I have seen recently was a German neo-Nazi in a magazine article!

I'd rather look at Nelson Mandela's crazy shirts than Blair and Cameron etc.'s crappy, boring suits.

 

#19 2013-01-08 09:44:07

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"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

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#20 2013-01-08 09:54:28

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Re: 'Call me Dave' on fashion


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

Souvent me Souvient

 

#21 2013-01-08 09:58:34

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Re: 'Call me Dave' on fashion

Last edited by adorable homunculus (2013-01-08 10:00:27)


We dont need any of the clothes we buy except as a means to be the star in the film of our life populated by constructs  - FNB

 

#22 2013-01-08 09:59:52

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'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.

 

#23 2013-01-08 10:14:44

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Re: 'Call me Dave' on fashion


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

Souvent me Souvient

 

#24 2013-01-08 10:27:59

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Re: 'Call me Dave' on fashion

^ Well the dockers loved him, in the days before political correctness had been invented and got a stranglehold on the Trades Union.

There is a bloke we see at football - a friendly Everyman type - who said a few weeks ago 'Enoch was right.' I always refer to him now whenever my Lefty pal gets on his high horse. 'What did Ray say about Enoch?'

Enoch did not put discussion off the agenda, the political parties did.


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#25 2013-01-08 10:32:30

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Vibe-Rations in Spectra-Sonic-Sound

 

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