I thought pie and mash was disappearing with diversity and demographic change. I did not realize this establishment was so new.
http://www.fulhamchronicle.co.uk/fulham-and-hammersmith-news/the-business/2012/03/08/traditional-fare-goes-down-a-storm-at-dye-s-pie-and-mash-82029-30491421/
I suppose that will qualify as exotic food for the new comers.
It's hard to get traditional food in London pubs and the prices are ridiculous (burgers £10 plus etc). The glowing exception is the Greene King estate that has good prices and exceptional offers. The beer choice is excellent too. We have a couple of good local cafes that sell traditional food too.
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^ I drink Abbot and Ruddles too. Marston's Pedigree is best from a bottle and Sainsbury's sold it for a £1 a bottle at the end of last year. My pet hate is Fuller's London Pride so I drink ESB or Bengal Lancer in my local pubs.
I'm not really a beer drinker. I occasionally like something cold and fizzy on a hot day. But what I've noticed is that lots of these 'real' ales and 'craft' beers taste like bad home brew that I used to make 40 years ago.
You got to get a good one sammy the oxford brewery does a good range of ales.
I spent some time over the holidays trying to make real Yorkshire Pork Pie. It is one of the things I really like when I am in England and I ate a ton of it back in the late '80s when I spent a lot of time there. I haven't perfected it though and it has failed to catch the interest of my wife or children. They are asking me not to make it. Anyone have a good recipe?
I do think the "craft beer" thing really isn't worth much. Guiness is hard to improve upon, and beer, in general, isn't something that yields the same kind of satisfaction as wine when you spend time on it. A Guiness with pub food is great, but spending too much time on beer is like smoking pot after you have left college.
A lot of the craft beers, are indeed, lively homebrews with too much sugar cane. I've drank some winter beers over Christmas, and the theory goes you should drink and savour them like wine, but in the end its beer and you can't take your time drinking it. Beer is for consuming fast.
In saying that, there's nothing quite like a beer buzz when you are in the mood. But alas, the older one gets, the less one can imbibe with impunity. The physical rigours of a full-on pub crawl doesn't appeal to me anymore and the body can't take the pace in drinking more than a few pints and the enjoyment has gone. It's a young man's game.
I find that what I drink depends on where I drink it , who I am with and if I am eating, or not. In an English pub with friends I tend to drink a real ale. I have never drunk wine in a pub. Usually I am driving so I stick to 1 or 2 pints depending on beer strength. Sometimes I drink Guinness or Porter beer as a full-back. In an Irish bar I have the Guinness or equivalent. In a restaurant, or at home with food, it will be wine. I always drink the best bottle I have first in case I am tempted to open a second,third bottle which always seems like a good idea but usually isn't. Over Christmas We all had good quality Port with the Stilton and wife's gingerbread and a late night Whiskey in male company. Finnish koskenkorva or equivalent was drunk with rollmop herrings as a starter to the meals. Quality rather than quantity. My last pub crawl was over 20 years ago and I staggered away from the pub leaving 3 pints of untouched beer on the bar. Definitely a young man's game.
My advice is drink very strong cider when on your own. 1 or 2 large bottles. By training in this way you will soon become impervious to the effects of alcohol
It was starting to get fashionable to be a brewer in the late 90s and so it has continued. Good real ale can't be beat, and I do separate this from the many craft beers that made by farmers and men who have sheds and lock-ups.
The big breweries modus operandi in the UK has always been to take over smaller brewers and shut them down asap.
Now they mess with their publicans until they quit and then they sell the pub onto property developers. Their dystopian future is everyone sitting at home drinking tinnies. Can you still get that dreadful Ice Beer dishwater in the UK, Foster's Ice and the like? A real nasty cheap gimmicky lager.
A good French wine also cannot be beaten, but the problem there is maintaining supply of the good stuff and avoiding the inferior wines that all wine merchants seem to be well stocked with. A mucca of mine lives in Bordeaux and he insists all the locals prefer to drink whisky and spirits, and they really only touch wine with food.
the thing with wine is that there is so much crap out there and still relatively expensive. if you are at a party and are asked if you want something to drink, a microbrew (craft beer) is more likely to be good than the wine chosen. Finding good wine is more difficult and folks seam to go crazy for the industrial plonk that,s heavily marketed by some celebrity. Remember all the hype around beaujolais (sp?) nouveau (basically fermented cool aid) , kinda like the next best thing since industrial sliced bread. Well industrial sliced bread sucks big time and so did that swill.
ofcourse, most commercial beer is piss poor also but there is no pretense about it. Over here you can get Miller lite lime or bud light lime. not only is the concept of light beer completely rediculous but then you add some synthetic lime to that sewer water on top.