I find Danny Dyer about as threatening as a blunt possum.

What do you take me for, some kind of double-yoker?

Great to watch people will be fight in the discussion. Agressive discussion area

Last edited by Liam Mac (2013-01-17 14:27:37)

No doubt.

No bottle more like, you wanker. I've an idea, why don't you slag off side vents and darts, label modern soft Italian tailoring as "I-gent", fashionable and vile. Then when you've been put right about "Continental" Ivy you can google the term, read a few pages about 50s Italian suiting, film stars that wore Italian suiting, and then, when you've done that you can start a thread on Talk Ivy with a few pictures and your opinion of what Continental Ivy is. Mind that you don't forget to post a picture of yourself, your ego would never forgive if you didn't.

Sorry, forgot to put clueless before hoho.

He might now you've given him the idea. Clueless hoho that he is.

THAW !!!! wrote:

The Tailor Caid shoulders we discussed, the fact it took people ages to see they were using an italian style should that Brooks ran for a while that was roped, and everyone was wondering what I was on about
Tailor Caid I regard highly - that's supposed to be an example of my negativity?

THAW !!!! wrote:

you and others going on about the print thread,
Print shirts - I don't like them and I said so.  I kept quiet initially, but when I realised I'm not alone I made my feelings felt. 

THAW !!!! wrote:

constant belittling of anything you see as being outside the 'syllabus'
As if.  Examples, if you hope to get away with that one.

THAW !!!! wrote:

Ivy is very broad, and by the time we take into consideration middle century fashion, and campus style, it is huge. Again I'm not saying you have to like it, it's just there are some posters that just moan, and never go out their way to bring anything to the forum in terms of research or threads.
Forget 'some posters' - we're talking about me, and I contribute more to TI than just moaning.

THAW !!!! wrote:

That is frustrating, and more toxic to the forum, than what me and others have tried to do.
Making disparaging remarks about ivy clothing - which has happened since you and your cronies appeared - registers far higher on the toxic scale than my suggesting that dressing like a 13 year old did 50 years ago might be unbecoming for grown men.

I am an ivy purist in what I buy, but there's plenty of non-purists who post/used to post frequently, who I have never had a bad word for.  (Daniele; that guy who used to say 'ho-hum'; Carpu; etc.)

Neatness?  To a certain extent.  E.g. look at the pics of late 70s students on HTJ.  Neat?  Not really, but at the same time, they are reasonably clean-shaven, shirts have been ironed and are tucked in, etc.  Those are hallmarks of the style.

Conservatism?  Ivy is from last century, so conservatism is part and parcel of it.

I am forced by the realities of day to day existence to wear so-called heavy ivy most of the time, but from your description of me, it sounds like I wear a suit or flannels and tweed every day.  (I don't have the sort of lifestyle where that would be appropriate or practical.)

Last edited by Yuca (2013-04-02 15:41:32)

I think the problem is to define Ivy by the terms of the old guard on this group and those that subscribe to the same view is to take a small period as dogma, and then further to take one portion of that as a condensed form of dogma.

Now I'm not talking about turning up with York Street Ivy and saying, this is what it is about now, I'm talking about looking back and exploring all perspectives from the early period of the 20's up to modern versions, (not with a twist).

Prime example being Liam's prints thread, and other completely valid topics that get slated, now whether I like those shirts or not, I appreciate the time he went to. And because I had looked into them too, I knew what he was talking about was factually correct. SO when people get on their high horses, and they are ignorant on top of that, I think it is very limiting to the group, just because it is not to some people's taste.

Now I know that's more a point on a few, and not solely you, but I see you part of that mindset. So sorry to single you out in that way.

It's really only me, H, and Liam that moved over, oh and Soggy, but he doesn't make any bones about being a Modernist.