I think we're being scapegoated for no real reason.

I can find you pics of JFK with untucked shirts in his leisure time as well as many of the Hollywood actors. The clothes can be worn both ways, it's up to who wears them. This is my point you view isn't invalid, neither is mine. But this isn't a Mod mindset of looking 'sharp' solely. They're clothes for people who need options. Whether well turned out of dressed down casual.

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You consort with those people, so it's inevitable you will be seen in the same light.  You're all tarred with the same brush.

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As I said, I don't keep tabs on who has done what, here or elsewhere, and I did generalise, so for that reason I would like to apologise for misrepresenting you.  (Presuming you really are not as pitiful as the other losers in your pathetic gang.)

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Last edited by THAW !!!! (2013-04-03 12:07:03)

The irony is Yuca and I probably dress in quite a similar manner, although my need to dress in anything more than casual is severely limited nowadays. Causality and scruffiness does not bother me, it reflects who I am, although I do strive for perfection in design.

You can drive a beautiful car sensibly, or like an idiot, it is still a beautiful car.

Ha, sorry, I should've written, dressing casually, not causality. Although I'm sure you do actually know what I meant. Even considering I used the wrong term.

I did. Interpretation is taste in Ivy. The clothes, and their details are factual if backed up with evidence. I'm not sure what goes on in the world of igents.

It's a broader one, it is only correct by the fact we have evidence, I thought religion's premise was not to have to present evidence?

The dispute really comes from the fact some people tried to impose their taste on defining the style. My interest is learning about all the aspects, and history of the style, not to be superior, but out of an interest.

Campus style, mid-century fashion and Ivy. Give a broad selection of clothes.

Ivy however really suggests one thing, the clothes of the upper-class and affluent, young men of the US, that would engage in the type of sports that would go hand in hand with a college education. They had a dress code to adhere to whilst on campus, but also were active and their clothes served both these purposes.

The sack jacket, the chino, bucks, the plimsolls. The BD collar. They all started with that heritage under the Ivy sports umbrella. Later through tradition it became the marketing of Ivy that became popular through I think the G.I draft, and those outside of the tradition wanting to look the part now they could attend college, this ran parallel with becoming popular fashion, that brings us up to the mid-sixties, from the 1900's.

''As for being over sensitive - give examples if you want that one to be taken seriously.''

Plastic meatballs?