You're a dead man.

You have to define what Ivy is and what it is not.

If you don't, it doesn't mean anything.

Terms like 'Ivy Influenced' are weasel words.

In its way, this conversation parallels conversions you see on S.F from time to time about what constitutes classic menswear.

Not that there's anything at all wrong with these types of discussions.

Last edited by THAW !!!! (2013-04-04 00:14:10)

I don't at all Sammy, you either already know what is Ivy, or you're discovering it, if you need to be told directly like a journalist might, then you can't be that into it. And if you really are into it, to understand it is really going take more time than just asking others under the thin veil of cynicism, if you really care go and find out for yourself mate. Like we all did.

Also,

Your trolling has reached a very low point here Sammy. You need to reinstate a bit of intelligence with it, it's slipping. Which is a real shame because you were ranked amongst the best.

Sammy, Sammy, Sammy -

Lock you in a room alone and you'd try to stir things up with yourself. Scratching at the door would be the rest of the bored trying to get in to join in your fun ! 

My take on all of this is that it's very entertaining to see people suddenly care about the subject of Ivy when they think there's a scrap in the offing, but who never engage with the subject the rest of the time.

Maybe THAW !!! and Yucca should have done this by PM, rather than supply you with yet another chance to stick your oar in ?

Not sure. Their conversation was valid and sound... And then the Chairman of the Bored joined in...

Please don't take this post as a chance to keep your love of disputation going. Ask me to define Ivy for you and I won't. Ask me to make sense of the Talk Ivy forum for you and I won't.

All your observations on Talk Ivy are valid to you. Ivy fans really don't give a crap about them. And the forum is for them.

Best -

Jim.

Love you, though.

But there's just no point in wandering into a pub where you aren't a local and declaring that the beer tastes like piss in there.

Makes you happy so that's good.

They just call you a hoho.

Yuca, you're such an online novice. Caught in a freshly spun troll web... oh dear, oh dear..

All is cool.

And I'm very cool with The Bish too...

But we are Ivy Nutters - Our fault.

You won't get us to join in with any other paradigm but our own.