^ There is more to alienation than jobs, e.g. housing, education and access to other public services. There are cultural issues too, especially Asian sex gangs targeting white teenagers, e.g. the recent cases in Rotherham and Oxford which are the tip of the proverbial iceberg.

Bad people are bad people whatever colour or religion they may be.

This said some ethnic groups do appear to contain a higher percentage of bad people than others.

However in my experience stupidity and racism tend to go hand in hand.

EDL are one of the few active protest groups who are in growth and the Woolwich incident has done them a power of good. On the other hand, left wing and anti capitalist groups are struggling to motivate their supporters to turn out to events.  There seems to be little appetite for protest amongst young people, quite often demos consist of turning up for a photo opportunity to post on the group's internet site, then retiring to the pub for a congratulatory pint.

The 2011 riots were nothing to do with protest, just an opportunity for mass criminality and the fun of having a crack at the Old Bill. Lots of kids had expensive new trainers on afterwards.

I think you off the mark there, many grass root anti-capitalist groups have bought things like corporate tax avoidance to a forefront, to the point were the government have had to go after these large companies, in a attempted to save face when normal people are having their incomes squeezed.

I'm amazed anybody can think the EDL is a good thing, that mentality is the complete mirroring of the opposing mindset. Let the people we pay to protect us protect us, not a load of stone island clad bother boys.

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In Malmö's ghetto the post men refuse to deliver to the door any more. Residents have to go to the PO to collect mail. Swedens far right party, Swedish Democrats, have seats in parliament which were won in the general election of 2010. It is a mainsteam party with a platform built on issues of Islam, crime and immigration. The riots are bound to add to their share of the vote. In 2000 the party was no where near gaining a seat due no doubt to the uniforms and swastikas. They were dropped in 2001. Scarey shit.

Should anyone on here be worried?

(url=)http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22698510(url/)

Fascionista?

I think they're a bunch of ugly yobs!



That being said I'm not sure about their political views. At least they are pro-Zionist, which is always a plus in my eyes. I've read an article in Bahamas a few years ago that criticised the reports in German leftie publications which portrayed them as far-right-wing nutters and lumped them together with BNP/ NF. It was mentioned that the EDL had quite a few black members and that they even welcome Muslims as long as they were not Sharia-freaks.

The article pointed out, though, that the BNP and NF were trying to infiltrate the EDL. From what I've read recently, it seems that has happened already and it's now a bunch of Neo-Nazi-scum...

Anyone who can read German might be interested:

http://www.redaktion-bahamas.org/auswahl/web59-2.html

The level of language is probably to academic to translate it with some internet tool.

Addendum re: Bahamas: Of course, they were criticised by the mainstream left for "defending the EDL" or for "sympathising with fascists", even though that's not what's being said in this article.

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