http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/10173402/PG-Tips-chimp-dies-aged-37.html
I did not know they lived so long. Good actor.
Aw. Poor little guy!
Dying at the age of 37 is pretty young for a chimp. They quite commonly live into their 50s and 60s. Some even make it past 70, I'm pretty sure.
Chimps are not "little guys," BTW. An adult male chimp will quite commonly weigh 150 pounds, and some can weigh close to 300, although this is very exceptional.
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An old mucca of mine use to work at Chester Zoo, his position was that if one of the chimps gets out then you better get the shotgun quick, as they can literally tear your arms and head off. Not to be messed around with.
Well the PG Tips chimp left a fine body of work behind him - a great legacy. They don't make them like that any more.
And the article does not even feature the Tour de France chimp - 'le premier the Anglais' etc..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4JNaI6Aqu0
Having commented on the cruelty involved, I can't say that I didn't thoroughly enjoy the PG Ads, Chimp's tea parties & trips to the Circus back in the day.
We tolerated far more back then.
... We had various pets at home in the country and one day the dog peed on the floor so my mother went across to kick it, slipped in the wee, fell on her arse and injured her ankle. Everybody laughed their heads off. When the dog much later died my mother shook her head and said "Shame, I still owed him a kick."
Life was better then.
Circus's are still big over here and we have two or three that come each year with new performers and acts. My missus insists on dragging me along and if its a warm summer, the tents get all hot and the stench of the animals is dreadful.
Don't any of you remember Daktari - n - by 'little guy' I meant it figuratively not in the sense of that perv Woody Allen.
I heard that chimps get mad if they are not offered a choice of lemon or milk and then you got real trouble on yer hands and yer will need at least a .44/.45 for the stopping power and make sure that you hit him right between the eyes - even then the momentum can keep him coming right at you and squash you as flat as a pancake. Anybody bring the strawberry jam?
^I think she ended up having one of the new face transplants.
The Nim Chimpsky story is worth watching if you can.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kGOeOMsx-4
Regarding some of the points raised herein: Chimps are much stronger than humans on the average, at least twice as strong, but claims that they are five or eight times as strong as a man are unlikely and really unverifiable.
There have been a couple of other horrendous chimp attacks in recent years. Locally, a man and his wife were visiting their pet chimp at a sanctuary where they had been forced to place him after he bit off a woman's fingertip. Two other chimps got loose and attacked the couple. The man had his ears and testicles ripped off, his face mutilated and suffered other injuries. The chimps were shot and killed with a .45 revolver. The pet chimp they were visiting subsequently escaped and vanished into the local mountains. More recently, at a sanctuary in South Africa, two male chimps grabbed a graduate student from Texas and dragged him under the fence and injured him badly although I am not sure of the extent of his injuries.
Apes seem to have much higher pain thresholds than humans. I was once talking with zookeeper working with Siamangs at the L.A. Zoo and asked him about this. He said, "I'll say, you have to practically beat them over the head with an iron rod to get their attention!" And these are comparatively small apes. Thus, some of the training methods used on chimps and orangs that may seem horribly cruel may not really be so bad. Just a thought.
Very interesting and a very good point - If they can't feel it then it isn't pain.
Reminds me of my morphine experiences - By not feeling pain I've never been in worse shape, covered in burns, cuts and bruises. As long as the things don't get infected then I'm fine. I suppose the point of pain is to make us take better care of our bodies. Once you remove pain from the equation then it's interesting how cavalier you soon become about bumping into things, picking up hot objects and doing knife tricks at the dinner table.
Thinking further about all this it absolutely makes good evolutionary sense - You couldn't possibly live the life of a monkey and be all sensitive and delicate could you ?
LOL !