IGent favourite sends out closure letter.
http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/showthread.php?122589-Bookster&p=1424652#post1424652
So the cynics appear to have been proven right.
Waiting the best part of a year for a garment was almost a rite of passage for some though.
Clearly, it wasn't a viable business model, unless of course, Mr and Mrs King have streamlined their pockets since August last year and are now making their merry way down to Rio.
Hockeyinsider flagged up issues of delay in December 2010.
http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/showthread.php?109655-Bookster&p=1172104#post1172104
Coming soon on Channel 4 'Cowboy Tailors'
Shaven-headed, Sarfend geezer tackles tweed merchants who have been failing to fulfill customer orders.
Not to be rude, but what have we lost ?
^ Me nothing.
Others may have lost money on unfulfilled orders.
Many will be sorry to see the end of an inexpensive niche player though.
l never bought from them because l could never be sure of sizing, but l liked what they did.
That's interesting. I tested the water with them (after discovering them from Maxminimus's blog) by ordering a pair of trousers in January which never turned up. About two weeks ago they said they'd provide a refund but no sign of that either. Their customer service is a shambles. Anyway, I paid by credit card, so I'll get on onto the credit card company. Anyone know how this works? I'm hoping it just means I have to complete some forms and then get refunded in full.
My experience with Bookster was that I ordered an overcoat from them early March of 2012. I got it in July. It was extremely ill fitting. I took up the matter of altering it with them. Michele said they would make me a entirely new overcoat instead, which was very decent of them and suited me much better because I realized the tweed I had chosen was much too heavy, and I specified a lighter fabric for the replacement. The replacement finally arrived in early February of this year. I will have to say that it was entirely satisfactory. Thus, while the whole business took almost a year, Bookster did right be me in the end, and so I thought well of them. I am sorry to learn the operation has tanked, although I am not particularly surprised.
The saga has now developed a new twist. Several intrepid customers have tracked their orders down to the tailors commissioned to do the work including one sizeable player - Mears.
Bookster and Mears' work have been compared before. Mears have a record of delivering on time.
Will Mears honour the completion of the orders?
^ Mears were not aware Bookster had folded.
Timing suggests orders may have been delayed or never reached Mears. Of course, Mears may not have been the only tailor they used.
http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/showthread.php?136413-Bookster-Closing&p=1425212#post1425212
Mears has been in business a long time. With hindsight they would have been the better firm to use though they do not have as extensive a galleried website like Bookster.
I feel sorry for Bookster. I got stuff off them years ago before I'd seen an online forum.
iirc the stuff I got was off their ebay shop and consisted of 2 x NWOT jackets and one or two used tweeds. All turned out satisfactory and Bookster were memorably pleasant to deal with.
I'm not surprised things turned out badly though - I think anyone offering customisable or MTM clothing online across nations or even national with people - especially a certain type of USA person - who thinks nothing of demanding recompense or free postage / remakes etc for imagined or real defects - and who treats even a small startup business like a deep pocket oil company - is bound for disaster.
I wouldn't be surprised if some customers had, at more cost than any old tweed suit would cost, hired USA legal guns who have threatened them in a way that would incur substantial costs win or lose.
What will happen now is a bunch of idiots will swamp Mears with demands and orders and want half an inch off the left sleeve and 5 inches more around the belly and such.. If I was Mears I'd bar all USA calls and block emails from USA ISPs.
Shooey - theres a few horse shops that sell Mears jackets etc here - pretty cheap - you could go in and try some on and order through the shops - not really your style but would be right up your alley for tough knock around bush weeds paddock wear - what would be other peoples Sunday best
People On Show Horses (POSH)
110 Clark St
Port Melbourne (by appointment)
Phone Tollfree: 1800 825001
info@posh.net.au
www.posh.net.au
Equino
Devon Park
710 Robinsons Rd
Langwarrin Sth Vic 3911
Australia
Web - www.equino.com.au
Email - lisa@equino.com.au
What went wrong at Bookster will be a matter of speculation.
They did have very good photography on their website and eBay offerings. It looked more attractive than Mears but prices were similar.
Selling made to measure across continents must be fraught with potential problems though.
Indeed, taking a negative perspective, completely without foundation: it could be alleged that towards the end they were running a ponzi scheme and that they were using payment for new orders to fund the older ones, which would explain the chronic delay. That's a cynical view, I know.
Another alternative, as per Mr King's email letter, was that the recession and down turn hit them hard and in this current climate, even with a good order book, the banks are not going to support a small business. Now it's bankrupt status and six years in purgatory before they can get their feet back on the ground. This is the risk of business and I notice that the cost of failure in the US is not as harsh as in the UK for going bankrupt.
Bookster presumably had stock invested in the cloths they offered that Mears did not hold. They also had running expenses.
If their prices were close to Mears quoted prices they may not have had sufficient margin. If orders dried up, low margin/low volume spells disaster.
I suppose there was also a danger that Mears could cut out the middle man eventually. Again this is all speculation.
I am sorry they have folded and people are out of pocket. Some of their stuff - especially the bold windowpanes - looked a bit Victorian to my eye.
Its not a Ponzi scheme if something is actually purchased. Theres nothing dodgy about using deposits on future orders to keep going - thats good business. Bad business is not having enough cash flow, not paying debtors in adequate time and not delivering goods. Possibly, in this case, caused by not having high enough margins. Just off the top of my head overseas postage has doubled in the last few years - for one. I'm not sure how the GBP has been against the U$A
Sadly they appear to not have had a company structure form what I can see so individual assets may be lost. Unlike the real scamsters who would set up a company - go bust - having spent others cash and then survive with house, car etc intact.
Alexander James - http://www.alexander-james.co.uk/ - offers a similar service to Bookster and Mears. The prices are reasonable too.
Last edited by Bishop of Briggs (2013-07-16 08:49:52)
MTM or custom clothing on the cheap is just death. Someone's going to get the short end, either the client or the business. I'm selling online soon but there's no way I'm doing custom orders online except maybe on shirts for established clients.