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#1 2013-07-29 15:52:19

Jeff Reed
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Propriety of dating

I am fairly recently separated from a long time, live-in girlfriend. The former girl had a friend she worked with that always wanted me to come by. She really liked my clothes and we all ate lunch together now and then.

The ex no longer works there and I know that after she left the two never spoke. They are still Facebook friends, but without any visible interaction.

Would it be unseemly in your opinion to reach out to the friend and suggest we get a drink sometime? I really don't know how she would react, but she always seemed into me. But she was the ex's best friend there and so it is a little weird.

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#2 2013-07-29 16:02:31

TheExpandingMan
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Re: Propriety of dating

What the hell, call her.  I don't think it would be out of line.  Cheaper than Worried Man's sexbot, at any rate.

 

#3 2013-07-29 16:49:59

Jeff Reed
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Re: Propriety of dating

The math does work. Guess I am just concerned about her reaction. But then I don't really lose anything if it is bad. I'd just rather not be thought of as a creep coming after the ex's friends.

Is it ok to facebook message such a thing these days? I don't know her personal number, and I'd hate to call her work to do this.

 

#4 2013-07-29 16:53:38

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Re: Propriety of dating

I've been with the same woman for over twenty years, so my dating advice needs to be taken with a liberal application of salt.

That being said, is her job the kind of place you could just drop by?  Stop in, chat a little, see if she wants to go for a drink?

I'm not on facebook, so I'm not sure what the dating rules are concerning that.

 

#5 2013-07-29 17:01:32

Jeff Reed
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Re: Propriety of dating

Typical Manhattan office job. No way I can just pop in. Actually I could, but it would be rather weird. Plus, everyone there would know me as ex's ex-boyfriend. I'm figuring if she does have interest that she will not want to broadcast the fact to her co-workers.

 

#6 2013-07-29 17:11:34

TheExpandingMan
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Re: Propriety of dating

Sorry, man. I'm out of ideas.

 

#7 2013-07-29 17:16:49

Jeff Reed
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Re: Propriety of dating

Thanks for the encouragement, though.

My female friend at work said don't do it...lol. She thought it would be bad to get tied back to the ex in anyway, and just leave it alone. I didn't like that answer so I came here.

 

#8 2013-07-29 18:50:01

Jeff Reed
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Re: Propriety of dating

Scientific experiment: how much alcohol does it take to send a facebook message. G*d damn if this ain't like bein' back at the 7th grade dance.

 

#9 2013-07-29 18:57:00

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Re: Propriety of dating

Just contact her.  Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead, batten down the hatches, and all that jazz.  You only live once, twice if you're Christian.


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#10 2013-07-29 19:17:16

Jeff Reed
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Re: Propriety of dating

Should I mention the awkardness of my approaching her, or not acknowledge that my ex and her were friends. I was thinking something like:

Hi, how have you been? Long time since we have seen each other. As you may know, "so and so" and I are no longer together. I know this might be awkward, and of course I understand if you don't think it is appropriate, but would you like to get a drink sometime? Maybe this Friday?

Jeff

 

#11 2013-07-29 19:27:48

fxh
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Re: Propriety of dating

JR - whats the problem? - Are you after a long term relationship, a quick one night poke or a catch up with a friend?

ratchet down a long way bro. Ask her out for a coffe and a meal - no DATE.

Tell her you are lonely and sexually frustrated and does she know anyone who might be interested in either a quick fuck or a chat or both - or even better a long fuck and for a few weeks worth.


Then sit back and wait while she tells your ex on facebook.

 

#12 2013-07-29 19:34:38

Jeff Reed
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Re: Propriety of dating

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#13 2013-07-29 19:45:58

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Re: Propriety of dating

Just go see her or contact her and ask to spend some time with her.  I wouldn't say anything about the ex or mention anything about it being awkward. Just ask her out.  She says no, oh well. Chin up and go home and jank it.  If she does say yes, the ex will inevitably come up. Just try to not to trash her and talk badly about her to the new girl.  That will make you look really good.  And if she's no longer friends with the ex, she may actually start spilling about her. But still maintain noble composure.

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"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#14 2013-07-29 20:05:20

Jeff Reed
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#15 2013-07-29 20:22:36

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Re: Propriety of dating

I date a lot.

I havent dated an exes friend but you need her personal number for this move.

It would be smart to ask several other women out too.

Anyway, treat her like any other woman.

It would be better to get her mobile phone to text her but if you need a shortcut, send her a facebook message, asking if there's any reason you shouldn't have coffee?

Women almost always know the score. She will let you know.

Dont qualify it, and dont apologize or explain.

Trust me, we are all "the enemy".

 

#16 2013-07-29 20:37:45

fxh
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Re: Propriety of dating

I dunno JR - its not something I worry about. But for what its worth I've always had lots of easy relationships with women in friendships, hobbies and professional life. I often meet women for coffee or to have meeting about something or work on project, or lunch or go to a gallery or music performance or catch up over a drink or a book launch or a public lecture. Its no big deal and with no expectations mostly. Its pretty easy to move on from there if you both want to. I'm not on the prowl - but then even when I was I found it best not to be actually on the prowl and just cultivate lots of women as friends. I don't think I've ever been on a cold big nervous DATE in my whole life. Maybe I'm not typical.

Clearly I'm not like FNB. Most men bore me and so do most of the women that like them. I don't talk about or watch sport or have any interest. I'm not sexist or misogynist.  I don't like scruffy people but I don't care about how they dress.  So in a way I'm fussy - but I'm not a snob - I like women who are all shapes and sizes and all kinds of looks but most of the women I get on well with are stunning women who attract attention.

edit: fwiw when I was on the prowl and would get mildly desperate I had friends who were sometimes in the same situation - friends with benefits I suppose. But mostly I would just ask a female friend or two if they had anyone that was in the same situation as me.

 

#17 2013-07-29 20:38:14

Jeff Reed
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#18 2013-07-29 20:54:12

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#19 2013-07-30 16:55:23

Jeff Reed
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Re: Propriety of dating

How do you meet women on the subway or the street? I couldn't begin to think of what to say. I'm not a dullard, but I feel like most are so guarded out there and I would just be a nuisance.

 

#20 2013-07-30 17:30:12

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Re: Propriety of dating

Jesus christ when did we turn into Sex in the City the Andropause Chronicals? Jeff my advice is simple. Spend time doing something enjoyable and physical like a sport. You'll find that puts you in a good state mentally and physically and most things I life including gettin you're leg over come about a lot easier. Also I do alright by just avoiding being a twat. Get in shape be yourself.. feel good that'll shine through... dont get caught up in any dating technique crap.

 

#21 2013-07-30 17:30:12

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Re: Propriety of dating

Just grab her earphones off her head and ask her what she's listening to.  Perhaps you could ask her opinion of whether or not your outfit is "Ivy".


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#22 2013-07-30 17:46:23

Jeff Reed
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Re: Propriety of dating

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#23 2013-07-30 17:55:22

Worried Man
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Re: Propriety of dating

^haha

Well, I'm definitely no ladies' man.  I was terrified of talking to girls for a long time.  Just before I got into my current relationship, I had started to come out of my shell a bit and it was starting to work for me.  I just started telling myself "Fuck it.  The worst she can say is no and then soon enough you'll be at home eating a pizza or something and you won't give a shit." 

Have you thought about one of those dating sites?  I think the stigma surrounding those is falling by the wayside.  Might be worth a shot.  Or, do you play an instrument (besides the skin flute)?  If so, you could start a band.  I'll say this from experience... chicks love a musician.  Well, that is, until they actually start trying to maintain a relationship with one.  Buy a nice sparkly drum set, sit in on a few jazz gigs or something where you can wear a suit, get up there on stage and show everyone how it's done.  Works a charm.   See avatar.

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"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#24 2013-07-30 18:18:16

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#25 2013-07-31 01:04:49

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Re: Propriety of dating

Listen to FNB Jeff. That's solid advice he's dishing out.

Never be afraid to talk to women, what's the worse that can happen? Get stuck in! smile


We dont need any of the clothes we buy except as a means to be the star in the film of our life populated by constructs  - FNB

 

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