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#26 2013-07-29 15:53:57

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Re: Social Class ?


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#27 2013-07-29 16:01:42

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Re: Social Class ?

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#28 2013-07-29 16:28:36

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Re: Social Class ?

Golly, yes.

The fetish for science, which overtook religion, was a corker. 

Mankind's greatest weakness is it's need for certainties. But only Mark Twain ever pinned down the only two real certainties we have. Although, now I've Googled, I see that others had said the same thing before...

I personally think that a scientist is just as big a fool as a cleric.

Only my Rabbi, Dave, is exempt from this rule with his memorable dictum "Who cares what you eat or do, do you think the world revolves around you, do you think that G*d cares what you get up to? Eat bacon, why not? If it doesn't matter to you I promise you this, it doesn't matter to anybody else either."

(I do not eat bacon)


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#29 2013-07-29 16:37:53

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Re: Social Class ?


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

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#30 2013-07-29 16:42:55

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There's truth in that too.

But the whole 'any certainty will do until the next one comes along' culture we have is clearly a load of rubbish.

What ever happened to the 'science' of Phrenology ?


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#31 2013-07-29 16:46:23

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#32 2013-07-29 16:49:01

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Did you get to feel their bumps back in return ?

Or was that extra ?


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#33 2013-07-29 16:51:04

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Re: Social Class ?


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

Souvent me Souvient

 

#34 2013-07-29 16:51:57

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Re: Social Class ?

Felt a couple of bumps. Then I gave her a tip. She says she didn't feel a thing. Not my problem. That's why G*d invented batteries.

 

#35 2013-07-29 20:43:55

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Re: Social Class ?

When people discuss class, I am never quite sure where they are coming from.  There is the class of money, the class of education, the class of heredity, the class of culture,  the class of style/grooming/taste and the class of manners/morals/form. Maybe I even left a few out.

In any class engine, a person can hit some, but perhaps not all, of these class pistons.

When i discuss class, I am usually discussing the class of style/taste and that's why I can admire someone like Mr. Fish from a low economic and education class but an extremely high taste class.

Now it is probably true that whatever class  you are from will affect how you wear clothes but generally people will know who you are regardless of what and how you wear clothes. That's because manners, accent, values, intelligence, grace, politics etc all go into the soup that makes a person tasty or not to another person.

One personal story. Some banker who spends a lot of time in London said to me that I dress just like the English bankers he deals with. Not wanting to discuss clothes, I tried to laugh it off by saying it was the city boys style and he said, that no it wasnt that brutish crowd but rather the well mannered, Oxbridge intellectuals. Which should tell you that it is possible to mimic something you are not if you approach something honestly instead of denying it.

 

#36 2013-07-29 22:20:19

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Rocking traditional, current and classic Italian Ivy since 2011.

 

#37 2013-07-30 00:02:17

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Completely impossible. You'd like to believe it though I'm sure. All you have is the performance to make your judgements on. As for the actor, how could you possibly know anything ?

I enjoyed a program the other night (it might have been yesterday even, I do lose track of time) about fake personas on dating sites. Some are scammers but many were revealed to be deliberately created by the owners of the sites to manipulate and increase their traffic. Makes sense to me. That's what the Internet is like. It's the home of manipulation.

The more you try to personalise your dislike for my writings the more you buy into them. The game is rigged that way.


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#38 2013-07-30 10:17:47

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Re: Social Class ?

Like I said; full of shit.


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#39 2013-07-30 10:49:13

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Re: Social Class ?


�Careful with that axe Eugene.�

 

#40 2013-07-30 11:01:35

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Re: Social Class ?

I think we're saying the same thing then, boring as fuck and full of shit.


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#41 2013-07-30 11:04:48

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Re: Social Class ?


�Careful with that axe Eugene.�

 

#42 2013-07-30 11:40:20

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I've never been 'found out' - I've been advertising the fact for years. !   wink

Still - We're all having fun in our own ways: The complainers can complain (which they seem to love) and I can carry on being me, which I love most of all.

The world of 'estates, boozers and clubs' is fine by me. But then I'm a tolerant sort. Maybe others should be more tolerant in return to my swanning around, poncing about and having a laugh ?


What we need is a great big melting pot.


What the world needs now is love, sweet love... And a jolly good kick up the harris.

 

#43 2013-07-30 11:53:35

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If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman

 

#44 2013-07-30 12:40:42

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Re: Social Class ?


�Careful with that axe Eugene.�

 

#45 2013-07-31 02:23:17

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#46 2013-07-31 02:31:42

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Re: Social Class ?

I will say that I have great respect for the values of the world that Armchaired & Soggs talk about. They just don't happen to be mine and very often they aren't those of the internet either. And I'm very happy to say that's probably a very bad thing too. But it's just life, innit? Never as good as you'd like it to be...

Best -

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#47 2013-07-31 02:48:46

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Re: Social Class ?


What the world needs now is love, sweet love... And a jolly good kick up the harris.

 

#48 2013-07-31 06:57:58

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Re: Social Class ?


�Careful with that axe Eugene.�

 

#49 2013-07-31 07:25:05

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Understood & thank you.  The only story I have to tell is my own and my experiences, so the amount of me in them is something I'm stuck with !

(... Plus I delight in going down memory lane...)

I'm always interested in the stories & experiences of others - Mainly because they are usually very different to mine and that's how I learn.  Soggs ought to ramble more - I'd be all ears. His point about me & substance is also very valid - I only care about style. I've got none of the 'meaningful' aspect of style to share beyond my taste just reflecting me doing what I want. Nothing aspirational for me & equally no element of slumming.

Best -


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#50 2013-07-31 08:30:15

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If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman

 

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