Just moved house and, Glory, what a lot of P.G.S's I have.
... Also, so many Blue & Blue/White striped shirts too - But that's a topic for another day.
I love a Grey Suit.
Various fabrics, an 'Ivy' cut or a cut on the 'Ivy' spectrum...
So many 'Cordo' coloured loafers too... (Again, let's save that for another day).
Who else here also enjoys a Grey Day ?
I've got a lovely plain grey 3 piece suit from the '60s. Trim trousers, slim lapel, 3 button. It just feels right when I put it on, which is almost never.
Oh my. What timing. I have a meeting tomorrow and was planning on wearing my PSG from PS (Paul Stuart). I'll try to strike a sexy pose and snap a pic before heading out.
Last edited by Sammy Ambrose (2013-08-19 19:37:08)
Heavens, plain gray suits are about as classic as you can get. In my limited wardrobe of six suits I have two plain grays: a medium dark sharkskin (pick and pick) in VBC 110 and lightweight pale gray summer suit from VBC 140.
Okay, I'm relieved!
That sentence "once the look in its original, purist form ceased to be fashionable on campus, it ceased to be fashionable in society as a whole" is my favourite!
Certainly, Chens! How could it possibly be the other way around?
I couldn't think of a better example of circular reasoning or begging the question!
Let's all start calling up old Charlie with "good questions"!
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Was it okay to drink wine in a "beer jacket"?
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I would say that the grey suit is the perfect first suit.
Flatters everyone, especially younger men.
It's clean lines help you understand fit and silhouette. No patterns to distract the eye,
Its neutrality colourwise, gives you the greatest opportunity to experiment with colour and pattern with shirt and tie.
The key though is to pick a cloth with texture and variegation, as solid greys can look cheap and dowdy without.
And a mid-grey pick & pick fits the bill perfectly.
Last edited by Sammy Ambrose (2013-08-20 05:40:28)
Chens is just try to further his own cause when he writes this stuff.
. like I said ive got no interest in why or where the style comes from... id wear ivy if it was the clothes of binmen. But the point ive always made is the sack in the form that gave rise to it being accepted as being suitable to wear for the better off types has its heritage on the sports field. It was not the garb father would wear. It was the younger sportier chap taking it from one area into another. The case often being they were the types that would've been sportsman at ivy colleges.
Last edited by Bop (2013-08-20 06:08:05)
Plain grey suit is my preferred option. Medium grey, that is.
Again you are wrong jim.. maybe by the time of the 20s when the sack suit was really the garb of the fathers and sons... but in the 1800s morning dress was the choice the sack too informal... this casual sportswear was slowly over time adopted. The only people other than sports persons to wear sacks were people alot further down the social standing. Not what an affluent eastcoast business men would be wearing.. his son might because hes at college undertaking a lot of sport. This is why ive tried to explain your wrong but I think your fingers are in your ears.
Are you sure that your fingers are not in front of your eyes, bop?
You've written it yourself: It was a slow process!
Tween 1880 and 1900 the frock coat disappeared and was gradually replaced by morning dress and then by the lounge suit (i.e. sack suit) as proper business clothing.
This was a general phenomenon all around the world.
Not much to do with East Coast US establishment in particular, nothing to do with schools and not much to do with sports.
Besides, in this context sports simply means "casual", not "city", just the opposite of business.
You could simply say that the sack suit/ lounge suit which was a casual garment in the 19th century was adopted as business wear at the turn of the century.
What you could say about Brooks Brothers is that their number one sack suit has kept many of the original features of the turn of the century style and thus has maintained a look that shows its casual roots, that BB were conservative and that they did not change their style very much...
But why always talk about the 19th century roots?
Throughout most of the 20th century the suit was the business suit. Worn by young and old, everywhere. The plain grey as praised by topstitcher being the most popular business suit.
Im not disputing that it was you that brought me into the discussion mate. The grey flannel suit is very important in the story of democracy and entitlment in the US post war