Now who else do I know corrects on-line grammar...

Mmmmm....let me think.

Don't worry I didn't.

Oh - And also I'm "Jim's" Son writing this and have been for ages, so you are all even further removed from the phantom you might want to engage with.

I'm still Topshitter though...



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I think Charlie your getting a bit to carried away with reading a couple of articles that say the same thing and presume that thats how it was for everyone


No gw not everyone just a generalisation for the south - east and London. I was asked for evidence and provided pointers. I'm not on trial here.
That was where I was, its what I saw. It would have been different for you.
Regarding mods and me not getting it, as you say, why would I ? Not being a mod myself.
AB and the Terry Taylor I have read. These books would have shown what was going on in London at the time, or certainly a view of a small part of what was going on.
It would have been different elsewhere then too.

Formby - The suggestion that the casuals were the true heirs of Mod, the 80's Mod is not an unreasonable suggestion. They were certainly closer to the ethos of the modernist in wearing contemporary clobber, ans living in the 'moment'.

I remember an interview with Paul Weller from the 80s, I can't remember exactly where from, but he said the same thing. The casuals he specifically mentioned were those going to a concert by either Frankie Beverley and Maze or The Fatback Band. Sorry that I can't pinpoint the reference but I remember the interview well, I'm not making this up I promise.

and a little something from Garmsville's Jason Jules, regarding soul boys into casuals and a bit of music.

"It lasted longer than the Punk, Mod and New Romantic scenes. It laid the foundations for global dance music as we know it, and yet the East London Soul Boy scene is more often than not portrayed as a kind of social footnote, an also-ran in the history of youth culture.

Even at the time, back in the seventies and through to the early eighties, the Soul Boy was often vilified, his style of dress lampooned - the wedge haircut, the plastic sandals, the straight jeans, the white socks - and yet the Soul Boy aesthetic is at the core of contemporary British menswear as we now know it, the beginning of the casual and the street style obsession with sportswear, vintage and country classics."

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According to Farley, casuals also lacked a particular music scene. 'In the south, casuals listened to soul music and went to the Caister Soul Weekenders to hear Fatback and Luther Vandross,' he says. 'Up north, they listened to more of a white music sound. But it was really about turning up at football and looking good.'

Terry Farley quoted in the Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2005/aug/14/features.review

yes, they lacked a particular music scene but heres Terry Farley saying in the south...

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before AND after if you believe his book, I think. He liked a side-order of jazz-funk too, the main course being everything else he could jump on.