1) Yes it does. Seems a little out of place with the rest of the cover TBH , which, may I add is one of my favourites. That's Weller for you. I always thought Mr Talbot was better dressed.
2)Most definitely, young casuals. Like I said previously Weller thought Casuals were the mods of their times.
"We were nippers like that once, remember?" at the end of the video.
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Not a bad piece on the Style Council here if anyone's interested. From an American's point of view.
http://mod-male.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/in-defense-of-style-council.html
from Away From The Numbers blog, interview with Steve White TSC drummer
AFTN-1983 was a Long Hot Summer , what was you up to/wearing and was you in love with anyone in particular ?
Steve White - Lacoste, Fila, Incontinence pants, Lois and Yes
I really can't believe that I belong to a chat group that sees Paul Weller as a serious musician.
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I love rock n' roll, but I've never really gotten the adulation given to Weller. I feel the same way about Joe Strummer.
Weller has lived of the back of The Jam, when he was a BYT.
Never understood The Style Council.
His solo stuff, blah. Didn't mind that Dr John cover he did though.
Terry on the djhistory forum tells us...
"The idea that ALL london lads were part of the 79 skinhead revival is way off the mark , jazz funk was huge and the soul boy look everywhere , sure boneheads stood out more than someone dressed in a way your nan would call smart but that scouse story is far from the whole truth, far more scousers with bad taches and jean jackets on the kop in 79 than a few dozen proto scals in the annie rd."
Shame you can't believe all you read on forums eh chaps?
re:TSC, they were in fact my favourite Weller incarnation.
His first solo album was actually stunning as well.
Unfortunately, along with the Gallagher brothers , he became an icon of 'new lads', Loaded readers.
You see them in the pubs to this day, "What d'you listen to mate?" "Welluh".
"The hooded jacket with those checks on the chest. God, everyone wore them. Except me.
I am really not a fan of Weller, but he tried out things and took the risk to fail. Which he did a lot with TSC. But, to get back on topic, he made a move OUT of a subculture."
Axelist I believe those hooded jackets were from Demob in Beak Street. Weller may have moved away from subculture for a time, but he was more than happy to reaffirm his status on the Jonathon Ross show...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDMVuM11Xfo
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I always liked the 12" version of 'Precious' by The Jam. Pretty much white jazz-funk .
That was when he was just a shoelace to the midnight beat....
The question is: what defines a youthculture?
German wikipedia suggested:
* it often starts with a small group that develops an innovation in fashion, music, attitudes..
* they find adopters, than develop an own world-view and values
* they use specific symbols like language, music, clothes, jewelry, tattoos etc. to differentiate themselves from the mainstream
* the grade of acceptance in their generation leads to either the development of a real youthculture or the stay as a subculture
Personally, I think that
- today, these symbols are not that important anymore. I often have the feeling that younger people tend to gather around specific interests without the need of codified clothing. I have colleagues who look absolutely "normal" in the meaning of high street fashion, but who listen to punk, visit punk concerts and clubs...
For example: I do not very often go to concerts anymore, but from my small experience I also have the impression that the visitors of let's say a ska concert may share certain things, but those who dress in a sense of "Mod" or "Skin" often are older. The younger ones either don't know, care or both
- Most of us grew up in a certain time. At that time, thee was a strong mainstream from which you could and would distance yourself. If you wanted. There were enemies, so to say. Who serves as an enemy today, if even your grandpa tells you how he went to see the Rolling Stones in his youth and the whole family wears the same clobber.
- and then, maybe we are too old and too far away to actually see the new cultures. We are trained to see mods, rockabillies or whatever comes to mind of the classical youthcultures. What if the new cultures use different codes which we can not identify and what if they fly under the radar? What if we are the enemy, what only would be logical.
In my town, we have a large Japanese community. I often see groups of kids in Japanese supermarkets gazing at the stuff on sale, wearing some sort of manga /cosplay stuff. They also seem to meet in a park nearby where I live. No youthculture?
- Skaters. No youthculture?
- ravers, techno freaks. No youthculture?
- Hooligans? Metal fans? Goths?
I think the times of the "next big thing" are over. There still may be youth cultures, but they do not have the large visual impact in daiy life anymore. Is that good or bad? I tend to say it's positive.
Indeed, when there is no longer a mainstream and strong common culture, there is nothing to rebel against and the new immigrants often have very strong conservative cultures were rebellion is literally not an option. Is it a good thing, I think not. Popular and rock music is effectively moribund if not dead, it needs to be shaken up with the shock of the new. But I doubt there is anything viable left to shock with, perhaps the return of the big band era?