Maybe we are at the end of history, youthculturewise. Everything has been done before, in some form or other. I may be wrong, but for me the latest real innovation in music was house/techno. That was new. Since then, all I can see are variations of things which were there before.

What I meant with that I tend to think that it is positive that this phenomenon does not exist anymore was that all these tribes brought a lot of violence. You got beaten up just because you "were" an xyz.

Hep, you are right. What gets lost is the rupture, the change of things. That really is a pity.

Also, maybe, people do not want to stick out that much anymore? A few days ago, I saw a young woman: she had some rolled-up old jeans which were neither slim nor wide, heavysoled creepers, and some monstrosity of shapeless parka / winter overcoat which she obviously was wearing inside out (although it's whacketywack). Hair was short, pixiecut. The clothes were not expensive, but she obviously chose them very carefully to achieve a look she wanted. Likely, she was some sort of "fashion blogger", but she was the last individual to really stick out which I saw in ages. Maybe the experimenting got lost? I often think that people want to buy into something today. Hey, that's cool, where can I buy the outfit?

A few years ago, there was this short-lived phenomenon of kids who made these jumping dance moves. Did that have a name? I think, that came close to a youthculture. I hated the music, I hated the looks, I hated the stupid dance. Actually, they hit the spot. We are the ones the youth will rebel against.

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I think the shock value is crucial Hep. Pink mohicans, tattoos even ear-rings have all been vilified in their time. Nothing shocks anymore though, apart from killing people and even that's getting to a point where it is just a normal thing that goes on. Awful times really.

... when I arrived back things had changed. The big thing was soul music and football violence with the dress code of Lois jeans frayed at the bottom desert boots and knits Pringles etc.

Armchaired himself wrote this a year ago. Unfortunately he seems to have changed his mind since then.

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More from the same show - (ish)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UQmY57qrfw

wasn't really scoffing CP, just thought it amusing : )
They were very popular along with the Shelley's bowling shoes .

Post-modernist / consumerist society has in many ways killed off youth cults.

Clothes are not the signifier's  they once were.

An emo kid is as likely to come from a middle-class background as they are a working class one. Their clothes tell you nothing about their background.

And this was my point with Topsticher when he as camping it up about 'class' this and 'class' that. He was evoking the rules of a game that is no longer played.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512013/Schoolgirls-sent-home-classes-having-exaggerated-teddy-boy-haircuts.html

that haircut is a bit of an epidemic with the young fellas, they call it the Fusey haircut, its a Joey Essex thing apparently. So my ladyfriend's daughter tells me.

He's pretty beefy for a vegetarian.