Probably proposing summarily stripping citizens of their citizenship on suspicion of terrorism is not the best reaction from great western democracy. Adoption of the tactics of Uncle Sam is not the way, mah Brodhas an Sistahs - especially when so many other countries don't play hard-ball. Airplane flights out of London involve a humiliating degree of 'security' - but get into most other European countries, and the same 'planes are subject to nearly nil security measures.

Moreover, I thought that the current Syrian regime was pretty much universally recognised as 'extremist' and 'evil' - so why is the Barclay Bros' Daily Telegraph attacking those who are fighting against it? Maybe, it has something to do with the fact that a pair of illiterates are now the owners of one of the world's former great newspapers - just see how far down the pan it has gone since Michael Berry's time - first with Conman Black and now with cloned Kray-Twins.

I honestly do not believe that our liberal democracies are capable of defending us against the virile strength of what is already seeded and growing in our midsts. Their answer will always be to capitulate and retreat, obfuscate and deny the evidence before them. When we get to the stage of low level civil war and insurgency with various autonomous regions in our cities, they'll still be spouting the same drivel they're spouting now.

And that's passed the middle class dinner table now: it's all going to end badly, with civil war.

The problem is that it's comparatively easy to get to Syria. Squeezy Jet to Istanbul, a road trip to the porous border and you're there. You can almost take a few days leave from work, do a week's jihad and be back in the office on Monday week.

I can normally squeeze a jihad in round lunchtime..

There isn't good and bad...only interests. We use the secular Islamists to keep our interests afloat in the Middle East religion is used..and terrorism is a tool at the disposal of our governments. Those chemical attack  in Syria were reported as being black flag in some parts of the more educated media.. and by that I dont mean nutty leftist stuff. I believe an oil trading magazine took it as the angle, also there is a lot to do with the Islamic extremist threat to Russia as Assad becomes under threat of being over turned. Islam really is the side issue here. I cant believe hep sees it so plainly for some as intelligent as himself

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Prosecuting the soldier - who is trained to kill and whose mission it was to kill - is akin to killing the paper-boy because he delivered your over due bill. We're not prosecuting Blair about the illegal war, or those behind the renditions and torture are we?

At best, this was a slap on the wrist, the man is a hero and has earnt our respect.

But of course, if the rules of engagement are so obscured, then we need lawyers attached to each regiment, if not each patrol, leading from the front of course, to help the troops interpret when you can kill the enemy or not - especially in a combat zone.