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#1 2013-12-20 23:13:30
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The Wolf of Wall Street
It will be interesting to see how the excess plays out sartorially in Scorcese's film of Jordon Belfort, I personally don't remember ties being that bad in the 90s, but then again, I wasn't on Wall Street:
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/mens-fashion/wolf-of-wall-street-trailer-style-061713
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/jordan-belfort-the-real-wolf-of-wall-street-9018925.html
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#2 2013-12-21 00:16:41
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Why the fuck do they have to put hip hop over the trailer for every fucking hollywood film nowadays?
Did anyone watch the new The Great Gatsby that will be forever held as a benchmark for how shit big budget American/Hollywood films have become. The pacing of it was like watching the trailer.
#4 2013-12-21 05:11:06
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Well, the nineties was the decade that Hip Hop music went mainstream. So the director is setting the mood, musically speaking.
Tarantino is a hatchet man, a maker of pastiche. A post-modern director for a post-modern age. He has talent though, but not of the 'original' variety.
He will never be considered a great, and I think he accepts that.
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#5 2013-12-21 07:38:32
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Tarantino is a mere peddler of violent pornography and his guest appearance in the Muppet Movie proved his vulgarity and extreme bad taste.
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#6 2013-12-21 09:11:27
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Re: The Wolf of Wall Street
I wasn't in Wall Street in the 80's, or the 90's, but my brother was and I went to a lot of the "social functions".
I love the early Scorcese as a filmmaker and artist.
Having said that, when originality was not of such totemic importance to artists (consider the many renditions of any single chirstian or mythologic scene you like), this movie would have been recognized as a reinterpretation of Oliver Stone's meditations on what makes speculators tick.
The movie captures more accurately the spirit and sartorial manifestations of the 80's in Wall Street. The guy depicted in the movie was an outlier by the 90's and if you are going to talk about outliers and portray some kind of reality, go find one TODAY, as there are quite a few out there.
Scorcese is a tendentious wealthy intellectually lazy moralizer (greed is bad, there are some crazy assholes out there stealing your money!) whose best work is behind him and he just keeps building bigger and more elaborate macmansions too rival his "Mean Streets", a true gem.
There is something inherently silly about a wealthy powerful egocentric artist ranting about greed.
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#7 2013-12-21 09:32:42
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"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin
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#9 2013-12-21 10:46:15
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So contrast collar shirts, DB suits and the like are now NINETIES style? Not 80ies?
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#10 2013-12-21 10:57:12
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This movie looks terrible. It must be terrible. All the brokers at work are excited to see it no doubt hoping for quotes they can use on each other. I never understood that phenomenon.
Then again, someone mentioned Plautus the other day and I doubled over laughing uncontrollably for at least 3 seconds. Just like when I am with a girl after a long hiatus, I had to keep thinking of Augustine to keep myself in check.
#12 2013-12-21 13:18:28
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Well, I for one am looking forward to seeing this. Whats it about?
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#13 2013-12-21 23:25:31
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^Hip-hop for banksters, I am looking forward to the dance scenes.
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#21 2013-12-28 12:28:24
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Went to see this because my date surprised me and said she wanted to see it. She wanted to see it in Battery Park because of the write up on the premiere there, but Battery Park is a dead scene on a Friday night. Went to Kips Bay instead. An eclectic crowd.
Pretty terrible movie. It had its moments of comedy, but was woefully short on description of what these guys did outside of the lifestyle of excess which was more glorified than deplored. The audience was clearly on the side of the Stratton boys and seemed to admire them. A black couple (how cliche) had running commentary that seemed to reflect the general mood. At the pen selling scene they were mocking the "failures".
I cannot comment on the accuracy of the wardrobe, but it was totally uninspiring. That may very well be because it was accurate.
Mostly this was a Casino knockoff that was not as successful as that movie was at portraying the dark side of criminal businessmen. Actually, it was not as successful as that movie in any respect. It was a three hour "wink, wink, it was just rich people's money they were stealing, hey isn't it cool to watch guys snort cook off of prostitutes and conspicuously consume everything in sight" movie.
Not that everything has to be heavy handed moralizing, but this was just a pointless movie. I'm not particularly interested in watching heavily drug addicted sleazy salesmen party for hours. I am even less interested in a point (or pointless) of view that makes it seem cool. There's nothing cool about drug addicts. There's nothing cool about ripping off investors. But I am in a distinct minority among those who make their way to this movie, apparently.