Look at them.
They've never even heard of "Trad"...
This is the lost age we should all mourn.
The days before the monkeys started to go tap, tap, tap on their computer keyboards and "Trad" was born.

My tears are your tears.

t.

Last edited by Terry Lean (2007-07-18 01:40:46)

I think the Mulligan photo perfectly illustrates how early modernist jazz ivy style transitioned into Mod and Skinhead.  It's like a whole essay in a single photo.  And Baker with the dessies.

More importantly, the photos illustrate an aspect of Ivy that "Trad" seems to have forgotten--the clothes still look good, perhaps even better, with an air of dishevelment.  It's obvious neither of those guys were getting dressed for a photoshoot.  Sorry to bring up Trad again but i've just been browsing the AAAT forum and it is amusing to say the least.  Ivy league style lends itself to hard drinking, Trad does not.

Thanks for the shout-out, Chris.

I posted this thought over on AA--from what I've seen, it seems this 60s West Coast look largely eschews pattern (Gerry's swell gingham shirt being a notable exception) and focuses on an almost graphic approach of clean lines and solid, understated colors (lots of earth tones, various shades of white, and cool blues and greens, with the occasional shock of something like bright red).

I love the look, and have been angling at approximating it with my summer wardrobe.  I was really inspired by one of Parker's post on SF in one of the contests to look deeper at this cool little cul-de-sac of American style.

I prefer it to the more "trad" country club/resort approach, with the reds, emblematic motifs, bright colors, etc.

I do have a couple of great vintage madras jackets that I wear a lot, but always with everything else very toned-down--solid oxford, tan chinos, solid knit tie.

If anyone knows more about this regional manifestation of Ivy, I'd love to hear/see more.

Last edited by Coolidge (2007-08-02 16:21:34)

I am in accord with messers Brownshoe, Coolidge, Horace and Chris H. on these points. Nobody has forgotten real Trad but many people have ignored it in the persuit of the Andy Trad fantasy.

I'm off to tie one on now- And I'm not talking about bow-ties.

More as my liver allows -

Jack.

(Wonderful loafers on Mulligan.)

Check out "The Endless Summer," which is circa '63. There's a scene where they get on a plane and these California surfers are traveling in suits. Imagine anyone going on vacation in a suit today, let alone a surfer. They've got the requisite clean-cut look of the time and the aloof blond Sonnenkind Mike Hinson looks super cool in his wayfarers and air of self-absorption.

Ol Sports,

Are any of you blokes surprised by the lack of blazers in Tony V's pictures of the Princeton dining clubs above?  I would reckon that if university lads were to dress for a photo today, 95% would wear a blue blazer and khakis.  In yet it appears that tweed is the order of that day.  Interesting!

Cheers,
Trip