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#1951 2014-04-23 09:31:31

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If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman

 

#1952 2014-04-23 09:44:30

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Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#1953 2014-04-23 09:58:03

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If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman

 

#1954 2014-04-23 10:21:34

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You could well be right from the British perspective, I can only speak from coming up in America. It's not terribly popular overall here anyway, so my sample size is diminished.


Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#1955 2014-04-23 10:46:25

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The Loved One.


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#1956 2014-04-23 10:55:38

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#1957 2014-04-23 11:19:22

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If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman

 

#1958 2014-04-23 11:50:46

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Re: Inane Overdrive-Brave New World Edition, 2013 and Beyond


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

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#1959 2014-04-23 11:56:58

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Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#1960 2014-04-23 12:05:13

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If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman

 

#1961 2014-04-23 12:08:05

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"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

Souvent me Souvient

 

#1962 2014-04-23 12:12:27

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Exactly.  Waugh is less than the departure lounge guy! There's actually a whole host of fluff writers I'd put over him. I don't find readability a drawback.

I'm not a huge fantasy guy myself, but I do have a lot of respect for Tolkien's ability and dedication. There was a serious amount of labor in his endeavors and he was an eloquent writer.


Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#1963 2014-04-23 12:20:02

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Last edited by formby (2014-04-23 16:48:13)


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

Souvent me Souvient

 

#1964 2014-04-23 12:22:51

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Oh, I agree.  I plan on perusing some very shortly.


Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#1965 2014-04-23 12:27:35

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"bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yay"

 

#1966 2014-04-23 16:11:18

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I never met Tolkien while I was up at Oxford although I knew some people who were tight with him.

Read the trilogy twice as young man but never cared to read it again. Few people can have a greater fondness for heroic literature than I. At the moment, I am re-reading the Iliad for the sixth time. I have never read it in translation. I have read some of the great Icelandic sagas so many times I have lost count. These were all in translation. I wish I had learned Old Norse, but I didn't. I know that Tokien was a supposed to be a very devout Roman Catholic, but his world-view in the trilogy is almost totally Manichaean--gallant and noble "good guys" confronting the blackest evil imaginable. This is alien to true heroic literature. Who is the "good guy" in the Iliad--Hector or Achilles? In many of the Icelandic sagas, men who are mortal enemies because of blood feuds often respect one another because each recognizes that the other is behaving as well as he can in accordance with the prevailing codes of honor. This can lead to reconciliation, as between Kari and Flosi at the end of Burnt Njal.

 

#1967 2014-04-23 16:58:28

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I think the general opinion on Waugh is the less Catholicism, the better.  Many people consider reading  Waugh's Catholic propaganda as appealing as reading Nabokov on butterflies.  "Brideshead" isn't a comic novel, nor is "Helena". Pretty much all the others are comic, except for the War trilogy, which has an important Catholic element but also has several good, enduring characters.


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#1968 2014-04-24 02:28:30

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"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#1969 2014-04-24 15:54:59

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#1970 2014-04-24 18:26:23

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#1971 2014-04-24 21:56:03

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If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman

 

#1972 2014-04-25 07:05:31

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Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#1973 2014-04-25 07:28:06

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If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman

 

#1974 2014-04-25 07:35:19

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"Kaffirs are as a rule uncivilized - the convicts even more so. They are troublesome, very dirty and live almost like animals.”  Complete Works of Mohandas Gandhi, Vol. VIII, pp. 135-136


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#1975 2014-04-25 08:00:51

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Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 
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