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#76 2014-08-01 00:49:23

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?

As i don't believe in the myth of collective identitity i do not like the us and them rhetoric that is pushed here but I am scared about German EU domination.

The German ideology is already dominant in the UN!

I wouldn't worry bout the queen. The minute she doesnt sign a contract she is supposed to sign, the monarchy is history.

It is a matter of waste of money or nostalgic tourist attraction to keep the royals....

If you want them to the wall, don't forget that there is a straight line from 7/9/1789 Paris to 01/20/1942 Berlin...


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#77 2014-08-01 10:42:25

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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?

It's the unleashed anti-semitism that I am worried about more than anything else. That ugly spirit has been reignited across Europe and as we see in the ME with the ethnic cleansing of the Christian communities, when it comes to the crunch, we'll sit back and tut tut and let it all happen again.

It's Europe captulating to Islamofascism that I am concerned with and their strange alliance with the so called liberal left.

Strange days indeed.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBCdlBrgEmE


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#78 2014-08-05 05:03:21

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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?

Rejoice, rejoice, rejoice - the unelected and unelectable Baroness Warsi has resigned from the Cabinet, but not the House of Lords I fear.

But it's a start.


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#79 2014-08-05 11:59:04

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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?


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#80 2014-08-05 12:10:00

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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?


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#81 2014-08-05 13:52:07

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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?

She has a point though. How long does collective Western guilt over the Holocaust justify unconditional support for the excesses of Israel?


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#82 2014-08-05 14:19:17

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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

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#83 2014-08-05 14:25:29

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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?

As long as the intent of Hamas and other groups in the vicinity is to commit genocide and kill every jew. Until they rid themselves of that stated aim, we must back Israel's right to exist 100% and if we allow genocide again, then we will have failed ultimately as mankind and the West will fall very shortly afterwards.

I wouldn't deny the United Kingdom's right to exist on Bomber Harris's strategy in WWII, nor too that of the USA's in dropping the bomb on Japan.

The hour is very much later than we think.....the end of times, very much by our own intent, rather than any real divine intervention may be upon us.....


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#84 2014-08-05 14:32:18

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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?

Last edited by 4F Hepcat (2014-08-05 14:34:29)


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#85 2014-08-05 14:50:28

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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

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#86 2014-08-18 23:32:35

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?


“No Room For Squares”
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#87 2014-08-19 00:30:59

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#88 2014-08-19 00:51:43

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#89 2014-08-19 01:01:14

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#90 2014-08-19 01:12:14

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?


“No Room For Squares”
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"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#91 2014-08-19 02:01:46

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?

I might have been a little harsh on Tony Judt:

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/Its-anti-Semitism-stupid-370779

And to be fair even Chomsky and Finkelstein, darlings of the left wing resp right wing "Israel critics" have stated that it was a mistake to talk about Israel as an apartheid state...


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#92 2014-08-19 02:19:53

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?

From the faq I posted above:



Is Israel not an apartheid state?

Like most other Western democracies with a sizeable minority population, Israel still has a great deal to do before absolute equality can be achieved. However, the disparity between the situation of Arab-Israelis and the situation that existed in South Africa is so vast that no legitimate comparison can be made. Indeed, when such parallels are drawn, they are far more indicative of the approach towards Israel of those making this judgment than they are of any reality in Israel.

As there is no genuine justification for making this charge, there can only be two possible explanations for it - either it is being made by someone who is totally ignorant of the situation in Israel or it is being made by someone who harbors a great deal of hatred for Israel. The "Israel is an apartheid state" lie is most often used by those that are trying to delegitimize the existence of Israel, which is one of the three components of the new antisemitism.

Moreover, this comparison does a great disservice to those who truly suffered under apartheid by diminishing both the agony of their situation and by denying the peaceful means that they used to end this horrific regime. Under apartheid, nonwhites could not become citizens or vote, they were limited professionally, forced to live in separate regions of the country and were provided with substandard public services and health care.

While the status of Arab-Israelis in Israel is still open to much improvement, a great deal has already been accomplished towards reaching the goal of absolute equality. Unlike under apartheid, Arab Israelis can vote, live where they want, receive excellent medical care and practice whatever profession they choice. One only has to look at the rise of Arab-Israelis in the public sphere to realize the advances Arab Israelis have made: they can be found on the Supreme Court, in the Knesset (parliament), in ambassadorial positions, as senior officers in the police and army, as mayors, as deputy-speakers of the Knesset and even as government ministers and deputy ministers. Prominent Arab Israelis can be found in almost every sphere of Israeli life, including in the medical fields, media and playing on Israel's national Girls Ball games team.

One of the ideals on which Israel was founded was that of equality. Israel's Declaration of Independence states that the State of Israel "will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions." Moreover, it goes on to appeal "to the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve peace and participate in the upbuilding of the State on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions." Subsequent legislation and judicial decisions have upheld these principles.

On must question how a country that considers even incitement to racism illegal be considered an apartheid state? The absolute legal equality and the ongoing efforts being made to achieve practical equality clearly prove the spurious nature of this claim.




t Does Israel's identity as the Jewish state mean the oppression of its Arab minority?

Israel's Declaration of Independence defines the state as a Jewish and democratic state, a state based on both Jewish precepts and democratic principles. Israel is the only Jewish state, rendering it an easy target of attack - a state that many people label exclusionary, discriminatory and undemocratic.

However, the fact that Israel has an official ethnic character does not render it unique in the family of nations. In fact, Israel is but one of many countries which have an official ethnic character or state religion (Argentina and Costa Rica, for example, are Roman Catholic, Denmark and Iceland are Lutheran, and almost every Arab country in our region is officially Islamic).

The fact that Israel has an official ethnic character is also not discriminatory. Israel's Declaration of Independence not only defines Israel as a Jewish state, but also as a democratic state based upon the principles of the separation of power, freedom, and complete equality before the law for all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race, gender or nationality. These principles apply today. As Israel is self-defined as both a Jewish and a democratic state, it guarantees the rights of its non-Jewish citizens, who enjoy full equality under the law.

Israel is not only a democracy in name, but also in practice. Israel is home to a multicultural society, composed of various minority groups, including Israeli Arabs, Bedouins, Druze, and Circassians. These minority groups constitute approximately 20% of the Israeli population. They enjoy all the rights of Israeli citizens, and bear most of the concomitant responsibilities. In particular, minority citizens in Israel vote in elections, serve as representatives in the parliament, ministers in the government, and ambassadors abroad. They carry Israeli identity cards, travel on Israeli passports, attend Israeli schools, are admitted to Israeli hospitals, and pay Israeli taxes.

Even if redundant, it is important to note that as in any democracy, minorities in Israel enjoy the right to freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of association, among other important political rights. In fact, the freedoms that are afforded to minorities in Israel far surpass the freedoms granted to citizens of other Middle Eastern states.

However, having said this, one cannot and should not ignore that as in any multicultural society claims of discrimination can and do arise in Israel. However, the Israeli system has many safeguards in place to prevent discrimination. For example, these claims can be directly addressed to the Israeli Supreme Court, on which both Arab and Jewish judges reside. The Supreme Court has the power to overturn government action, to order injunctions and to grant relief; and does not hesitate to use this power where necessary.

Israel, like many other Western democracies, is still struggling to obtain absolute equality between all its citizens in practice. However, Israel's strong democratic and legal protections provide a strong base for the protection of minority rights.


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#93 2014-08-19 02:53:33

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?


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#94 2014-08-19 03:45:28

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?

A STRONG GERMANY GERMANIZES EUROPE


Europe is being Germanized, not because the Germans are imperialist and colonialist by nature, but because the German economy has a suction effect that no European economy can escape. That’s what happens when an elephant rents an apartment with a few sheep and goats. What the elephant says, goes.

Sigmar Gabriel, former SPD “Commissioner for Pop Culture and Pop Discourse” and current Federal Minister for Economics and Energy, nicely summed up this kind of cooperation. In a recent television interview, he said that we have to help the young unemployed in southern Europe so they can buy German products, because Germany’s wealth depends on it.



http://axis-of-goodness.com/2014/01/06/strong-germany-germanizes-europe/


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#95 2014-08-19 04:10:49

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?


“No Room For Squares”
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#96 2014-08-26 11:08:24

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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?

I actually think you have the heebie-jeebies over Germany HBH; I love modern Germany, a fantastic high end engineering, technology and manufacturing based economy that delivers a social contract to the vast majority of its citizens. The real risk does not come from Germany, but the seeds of our destruction that have been sown in France, Sweden, Belgium, Austria and the UK.


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#97 2014-10-12 06:26:17

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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?

 

#98 2014-10-13 02:55:27

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Re: Why are we ruled by Germans?

To add to what I wrote about Wayne Glew above:

Mr Glew also got his backside handed to him by the WA Court of Appeal in 2009, when he appealed a decision of the WA Supreme Court:

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/wa/WASCA/2009/123.html

At that time, Newnes JA (JA = Judge/Justice of the Appeals court) noted:

20 The appellant's written outline of submissions did not advance the matter. It consisted, without any explanation as to their relevance, of the reproduction of a number of provisions of the Crimes Act 1914 (Cth), Criminal Code Act 1995 (Cth), Crimes Act 1958, Judiciary Act 1903 (Cth), Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act (Cth), and miscellaneous other legislation, extracts from Black's Law Dictionary and, from The Bible, extracts from the books of Exodus and Zechariah, the second epistle of Paul to the Corinthians, the epistle of James and the gospel according to St Matthew.

21 In any event, it is clear that the appeal is entirely without merit. The primary judge was, with respect, plainly correct, for the reasons he gave, in finding that the statement of claim disclosed no reasonable cause of action and was scandalous, frivolous and vexatious. No other finding was open.

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In short, Mr Glew seems to have lost pretty much every time he's been in court.

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Oh, and I just noticed what you wrote about the City of London and so on up above.

You may not remember, but in my earlier posts in a different thread, I explained the differences between statute law and case law. Statute law is law passed by the government - it's contained in the constitution and in acts. Case law *is* common law - common law is made up of decided cases, where courts have interpreted the application of statute law. This is because statute law is not always black and white, and it does not always apply to the myriad of situations that can arise. Hence, judges often have some element of latitude in applying the law and it is those decisions that comprise common, or case law.

So, your statement that the City of London bar association (which I don't think is actually a thing) has not corrupted common law by including statute/case law in the new form of "their" common law, as common law is not "statute/case law".

 

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