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#51 2014-11-03 14:07:50
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Re: What went wrong?
On a serious note, I do believe Carpu and I uphold a very similar ideal in terms of style and aesthetic and yearn for many aspects of a bygone era.
But you take America in the middle twentieth century... The average American really just had a few options in terms of dress. Even in a large department store he might have the option of a natural shoulder suit OR a continental suit. If it fit him right he probably looked pretty good. He wanted a shirt, he picked between a button down collar, or point, or maybe a spread, likely only in a few patterns and colors. Now, in today's society, the American is faced with ENDLESS choices of dress. Fashion has been influenced not only by Mad Men, but also preppie, punk, the '80s, the '90s, new wave, grunge, skateboarding, heavy metal, bikers, sports, hip hop, country western, etc. There's just no longer a cohesive American look. And the consumer will pick and choose from all of the above, as do the designers. Yes, you can still buy a conservative 3/2 sack suit, but it's not exactly easy to find and you may very well be the only guy in your office in a jacket without darts. Plus clothing manufactures realized that clothing is a very good way to have the consumer pay for their advertising, so now we have logos and slogans emblazoned on shirts and jackets. Just today I saw a kid of about 15 wearing a shirt that said, in HUGE letters, "I love my hoes."
"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955
#55 2014-11-03 23:55:21
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Re: What went wrong?
I think WM is spot-on: the choice now is endless, but in the face of all this choice, why are we dressing so badly?
Ralph Lauren, more than anyone, including Brooks Brothers, has marketed itself as the purveyor and vanguard of American style and lifestyle: and they do have it all going on, from Western cowboy style to military chinos, Anglo-mid Atlantic to preppie and made for measure. The choice in the RL ranges is quite astonishing and issues aside of some of the cuts, off-shored production and the now ubiquitous polo player logo replicating like some Burroughs virus often in the most unexpected social classes, the quality of RL stuff is generally spot-on.
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#56 2014-11-04 05:40:54
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Re: What went wrong?
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#57 2014-11-04 06:01:45
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Re: What went wrong?
"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955
#58 2014-11-04 06:12:42
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Re: What went wrong?
"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955
#59 2014-11-04 10:34:42
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Re: What went wrong?
Laziness is a part of the answer,but i think that the blame is on media.
#60 2014-11-04 11:54:44
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Re: What went wrong?
Ultimately, like most other negative aspects of contemporary life, the triumph of neoconservatism is to blame. Few people have the time, money or self respect to wear real clothes nowadays, and for those who do, the shops (supposedly offering more choice than ever) have little to nothing to offer.
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#61 2014-11-04 12:37:29
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Re: What went wrong?
LOL.
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#62 2014-11-04 13:08:20
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Re: What went wrong?
It's a question of morality.
"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955
#64 2014-11-04 15:03:10
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Re: What went wrong?
Global warming plays into it too.
"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955
#65 2014-11-04 15:03:50
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Re: What went wrong?
Blame Canada.
Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare
#66 2014-11-04 17:55:11
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Re: What went wrong?
I place a heap of the blame on those Californians. What's that Tool song about California breaking off and sinking and good riddance and all that? Good song.
"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955
#68 2014-11-06 12:34:40
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Re: What went wrong?
No. This song...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7ErpFBO7RI
Lyrics here...
http://www.lyricslrc.com/song697095/tool_-_learn_to_swim
"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955