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#1 2014-11-06 20:31:37

fxh
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Dressing for Success: The Re-Suiting of Corporate America in the 1970s

 

#2 2014-11-06 20:39:29

Worried Man
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Re: Dressing for Success: The Re-Suiting of Corporate America in the 1970s

I just felt like I was sitting in a cramped dormitory room restlessly proofreading my girlfriend's paper, which is due next Tuesday.


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#3 2014-11-07 08:40:26

doghouse
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Re: Dressing for Success: The Re-Suiting of Corporate America in the 1970s

That is actually a very good read.


I seem to come to loggerheads with iGents often who think that a) Fashion isn't cyclical and b) that men are on some linear track away from what is "correct". Formality and dress has always cycled, and each iteration is a reinterpretation of what came before.


Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#4 2014-11-07 09:53:29

formby
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Re: Dressing for Success: The Re-Suiting of Corporate America in the 1970s

Its an interesting article. I think I spotted an error though. Shouldn't it be John and Bobby not John and Ted? Even though Teddy wasn't assassinated he should have served a stretch.

The Molloy book sounds horrendous, a Mckinsey-esque approach to dressing, which personally I find inimical to style.


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

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#5 2014-11-07 09:59:55

formby
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"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

Souvent me Souvient

 

#6 2014-11-07 10:06:03

doghouse
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Re: Dressing for Success: The Re-Suiting of Corporate America in the 1970s


Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#7 2014-11-07 10:17:10

formby
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Re: Dressing for Success: The Re-Suiting of Corporate America in the 1970s


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

Souvent me Souvient

 

#8 2014-11-07 10:27:11

doghouse
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Re: Dressing for Success: The Re-Suiting of Corporate America in the 1970s

I'm searching for some witty line akin to "Far out man!", but I'm coming up empty. big_smile


Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#9 2014-11-07 10:54:29

formby
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Re: Dressing for Success: The Re-Suiting of Corporate America in the 1970s


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

Souvent me Souvient

 

#10 2014-11-07 11:41:50

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Re: Dressing for Success: The Re-Suiting of Corporate America in the 1970s


"O could I as Harlequin frisk,
And thou be my Columbine fair,
My wand should, with one magic whisk,
Transport us to Hanover Square."                       The Knut with a 'K'.

 

#11 2014-11-07 11:56:50

formby
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Re: Dressing for Success: The Re-Suiting of Corporate America in the 1970s

^

Er...no.


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

Souvent me Souvient

 

#12 2014-11-07 12:06:37

Worried Man
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Re: Dressing for Success: The Re-Suiting of Corporate America in the 1970s


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#13 2014-11-07 12:08:48

doghouse
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Re: Dressing for Success: The Re-Suiting of Corporate America in the 1970s


Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#14 2014-11-07 12:09:50

doghouse
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Re: Dressing for Success: The Re-Suiting of Corporate America in the 1970s


Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#15 2014-11-07 12:17:09

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Re: Dressing for Success: The Re-Suiting of Corporate America in the 1970s

"dudebrah"


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#16 2014-11-07 12:20:41

formby
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Re: Dressing for Success: The Re-Suiting of Corporate America in the 1970s


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

Souvent me Souvient

 

#17 2014-11-07 15:58:02

captainpreppy
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Re: Dressing for Success: The Re-Suiting of Corporate America in the 1970s

I have the 1988 edition of Molloy's book. It's kind of "trippy" (for want of a better word) and probably rather dated nowadays. Very sales oriented. Still a fun read. Some of his precepts would make any self-respecting iGent cringe!

Does anybody have any idea whether Molloy is still with us? I know that he was putting out a blog and talking about bringing out a new edition of "Dress for Success" not too long ago--after the 2012 election, at any rate, but when I did a web search on him the other day, I couldn't find any evidence of current activity on his part.

Speaking of proofreading, that article has one egregious error: It was Bobby Kennedy, not Ted, who was assassinated in 1968. As a matter of interest, the father of one of my very best friends was the defense attorney for Sirhan B. Sirhan.

 

#18 2014-11-07 16:42:30

doghouse
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Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#19 2014-11-07 19:51:06

fxh
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Re: Dressing for Success: The Re-Suiting of Corporate America in the 1970s

I haven't been able to get hold of a copy of DFS to read but any excerpts I've read have given me a good chuckle. I'm not sure if his all humour is intentional or not but he can be funny.

He is very gung ho on his blog and certainly believes in the American Dream. I tend to think he shoehorns his "research" into his beliefs a lot and there is confirmation bias in heaps,  but for all that he has a few insights into a limited context that are worthwhile.

I might order a copy second hand off Amazon.

 

#20 2014-11-07 20:03:08

fxh
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#21 2014-11-08 06:04:46

doghouse
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Re: Dressing for Success: The Re-Suiting of Corporate America in the 1970s

Molloy was very much a man for his time. The late 70s through 80's he really embodied American sentiment.


Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#22 2014-11-08 06:57:26

Worried Man
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Re: Dressing for Success: The Re-Suiting of Corporate America in the 1970s

Hahaha. I like the raincoat story.


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#23 2014-11-08 08:35:23

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#24 2014-11-08 09:26:45

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"bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yay"

 

#25 2014-11-08 09:35:43

doghouse
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Re: Dressing for Success: The Re-Suiting of Corporate America in the 1970s

I always went a little more forcefully. "dudebroman"


Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 
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