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#1 2015-02-18 02:20:47

Naive, Jr.
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Unlined loafer a mistake?

Please advise me if I should buy an unlined loafer.

I have never had an unlined shoe and prefer to avoid a mistake. Are unlined loafers recommended? (I wonder why they exist?)

Thank you very much.

 

#2 2015-02-18 07:00:19

Ethan Allenbach
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#3 2015-02-18 07:27:30

Naive, Jr.
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Re: Unlined loafer a mistake?

Dear Mr Allenbach,

Of course your kind post helps! Thank you very much!

I am aware of a sale i.e. a reduced price for a red leather Tricker's tassle loafer in size 7.  The shoe specialist of another shop took the trouble to look at it on the webpage of the shop which has reduced the Tricker model in price, and he remarked, unlike the Trickers tassle loafer his firm sells, this which concerns me is unlined and the cord design also different. This observation of unlined was subsequently confirmed by the loafer's salesman.  So I started to worry about making a mistake by buying an unlined shoe. Thus my thread here requesting advice. 

Previous to this ascertained unlining, I inquired online at Trickers because my shoe size is UK 7 1/2. The Trickers correspondent recommended size 7, which is still available. There is no 7 1/2 size for sale.

Do you find anything above regarding the loafer objectionable?

Your advice is very appreciated.

PS: The location of the shoe shop is too far away for me to visit.

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#4 2015-02-18 07:40:42

Ethan Allenbach
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#5 2015-02-18 08:01:30

Naive, Jr.
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Re: Unlined loafer a mistake?

Dear Mr Allenbach,

Thanks very much for your prompt and gratuit(u)ous cousel!

I see a "red thread" (metaphor) in both your posts: size!  Your recommendation I risk pulling the trigger of the weapon of my choice and liquidate size 7 1/2, subsequently you advise in another manner again liquidation. Very metamorphical, so fluid.  So you agree with the Trickers' correspondent who said 7 is right, he added because loafers should fit tight, and expand with wear. So you think I should liquidate the size 7 1/2 in this matter and not worry too much to choose 7.  Your other sense of liquidation which you say is an old forces trick (I do read the online daily "Veterans Today" for interpretation of false flag and other tricks used by clandestine intelligence) surprises me since I believe water hurts leather.

Your grateful consultee

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#6 2015-02-18 08:14:33

Worried Man
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Re: Unlined loafer a mistake?

My two cents is that they're good when it's hot out and you don't want to wear any socks.


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#7 2015-02-18 10:02:17

Naive, Jr.
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Re: Unlined loafer a mistake?

Dear Worried Man,

Nice to hear from a kindred soul who worries and an honour, too, a representative of the Film Noir brass! I get banned without understanding what went wrong. One poster on the Simon Crompton thread asked me if I'm on medication and my reply he's degenerating provoked him to threaten me with you! I encountered my newly earned foe fearlessly and endorsed his initiative.

Now to get in the groove: yes, I had an inkling no lining meant no socks, but why wintertime leftovers? I used to wear loafers without socks sometimes in summertime. If I don't wear socks, there's more room in my loafer, right? But I like socks, in fact, I dream about chunkier, a bit longer cottonrich Scot-Nicols socks on sale for about £8 in beautiful colours, if they would be only cheaper?

May I presume you wear loafers without socks? I wonder if Dave Brubeck could play drums wearing loafers sockless? It's never really very hot where I am, except after hours of disco dancing, but not my feet, but my trunk and arms. (I'm not half-elephant.)

Two cents is two senses, required to apprehend an object?

Thanks for your contribution!

PS: Kent Wang offers beautiful loafers, too, in fact, three kinds, which obsess me.  But they're never ever on sale.

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#8 2015-02-18 10:18:01

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Re: Unlined loafer a mistake?

I rarely wear loafers without socks, and only in summer.  I buy loafers with the intention of wearing socks in them, but usually only get good use out of loafers outside of winter, so the socks I wear in them are quite thin.  Never chunky socks in loafers.  Then when fancy strikes and I choose to not wear socks, I just put on the loafers and everything works out just fine, especially in an unlined loafer. 

And Brubeck was the pianist, not the drummer.  That was Morello, the Master. 

Sorry to hear about your prior troubles on the forum.  I don't recall the exact instance you refer to.  Hopefully that's all cleared up. 

Sincerely,

Naive Sr.


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#9 2015-02-18 10:27:26

Ethan Allenbach
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#10 2015-02-18 11:05:49

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#11 2015-02-18 12:49:10

The_Shooman
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Re: Unlined loafer a mistake?

Yes, unlined loafers are less sunstancial for a goodyear welted shoe and play various roles. For me they are lighter when one wants to potter around the house and do casual activities,and they are also good for hot weather. This morning l am wearing unlined spectator loafers, but will soon change my footwear into something more substancial to go about my day.

 

#12 2015-02-19 07:36:28

Naive, Jr.
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#13 2015-02-19 07:51:12

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#14 2015-02-19 08:02:25

Naive, Jr.
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#15 2015-02-19 08:03:34

Ethan Allenbach
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#16 2015-02-19 08:17:45

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"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#17 2015-02-19 08:18:18

Naive, Jr.
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Re: Unlined loafer a mistake?

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#18 2015-02-19 08:42:09

Naive, Jr.
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Re: Unlined loafer a mistake?

Dear Senior,

Your batting average could not be higher! Rancourt in Maine uses Horween and incorporates all other good components to show a beautiful shoe, which although my favorite is the other - flat (I forgot its name, bit it is sleeker than the beef roll, and I avoid beef and beefs when possible).  You have brought Rancourt to my attention - I've never heard of this shoe manufacturer before. Thanks for gold!  Staunchly American has its place in the universe, especially when it's not undermined by foreign agencies. Yes, you've named just the musician he mentioned.

Thanks very much!

 

#19 2015-02-19 08:58:25

Worried Man
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Re: Unlined loafer a mistake?

Ah, yes, just the plain penny.  Rancourt has the pinch and the weltline.  You surely can't go wrong with either.


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#20 2015-02-19 11:57:14

Naive, Jr.
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Re: Unlined loafer a mistake?

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#21 2015-02-19 12:52:28

Worried Man
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Re: Unlined loafer a mistake?

I was just referring to the styling with the boxy, not pointy, moc construction and the tongue and strap with the notable "penny slot".  It's a substantial loafer, and I just see this as a quintessential Amercian take on the loafer.  I guess really, the tassel loafer would be the utmost American version.  But as you pointed out, they're also handcrafted in the U.S.  All around, a hearty American shoe.

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"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#22 2015-02-19 13:00:37

Worried Man
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Re: Unlined loafer a mistake?

You should maybe have a look at Allen Edmonds as well, as they produce some unlined loafers and offer a wider variety of styles than Rancourt. 
http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/cati2_Shoes_1_40000000001_-1_1_image_0_N_120552_120552__subcategory__#facet=&sId=130246&sort=6&ps=12&bi=0

And don't overlook Rancourt's custom order feature if you really want to get personal.

Oh, and also, Alden....
http://www.aldenshoe.com/DrawCategories.aspx?PageID=8&CategoryID=15

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"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#23 2015-02-19 14:09:59

Naive, Jr.
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Re: Unlined loafer a mistake?

Thanks very much, Worried Man - you are a helpful person. I'm glad to have encountered you during peacetime. Keep up the moderate moderation! I listened today to a Swiss professor of law who spoke about the theme of his just published book: <Verhältnismäßigkeit>, and wanted to say to you, Worried Man, that it seems to me you have a healthy sense for Verhaeltnismaessigkeit, but I discover that this word, which is fundamental for jurisprudence, is not easily translated into English. One of several English words proposed is "moderation".

PS: I think the Simon Crompton thread here is very witty (most of the time) and some of the scholarship on tailoring astonishing. That Spanish tailor with the long name which begins with S is so conscientious and funny! It is really odd that Crompton awakes such broad antipathy, and I told him I disagree with his refusal to read the thread. He wrote me that's what the posters want - that he read what they write. Is that true, and so what? I just don't understand. I think Simon could learn from his critics.

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#24 2015-02-19 14:19:18

Worried Man
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Re: Unlined loafer a mistake?

I always favor peace over having to put out fires amongst squabbling forumgoers.  I know not everyone feels this way, but it's more fun for me when we're all getting along swimmingly. 

I do realize I may have just compounded the difficulty of your decision by offering these alternatives.  And if you're anything like me, you'll be in a tizzy for the next few days while you chew on the possibilities.


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#25 2015-02-19 14:21:55

Worried Man
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Re: Unlined loafer a mistake?

Hahaha.  I'm fairly moderate outside of my obsession with clothing, shoes, and the occasional drunken stupor.


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

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