The Lib Dems made a proverbial pact with the devil, now it's time for their soul to be taken. They'll not be back ever.

The Millipede promised nothing but the poor to remain poor with some wealth redistribution and the usual support for the moribund NHS and attacks on the so called "wealth creators". His promise of an Islamic blasphemy law couldn't have come at worse time, reinforced with the grovelling language he used exposed him something rotton on middle class dinner tables. The fact that he's just plain weird and an upper-sixth form nerd also did it in for him.

Cameron has made some horrific mistakes, Syria for example, he is a terrible judge of character e.g. promoting the unelected and unelectable Warsi into government and what a right can of worms that has turned out to be. On Sunday Bloody Sunday he was right, Hilsborough too and the intent to reinvigorate the North into an industrial power house is right. Now that he is not shackled to the liberal oversight of the coalition, let's see if he is enough fire in his belly to address the great issues of our time.

Out of a very bad bunch, the Tories were the best option IMCO. They're also likely best placed to renegotiate and reform the EU, which only a fool would consider is working well for all of Europe with reference to the mass unemployment, particularly youth unemployment. I am not a Tory, a traditional Labour supporter, but after the Blair and Gordon gang, one would have to question one's conscience before voting for these reptilian mugwumps and centipedes. Their attacks on the working and lower middle classes should have exposed to all, the unpalatable truth, that they are not the party of the working man, but one of an immaculate elite and intelligensia who need the poor and uneducated - and hopefully an expanding demographic! - to sit upon at the top of the pyramid and govern us as they see best.

But all eyes are on Scotland.....

For a while UKIP took the attention away from the economy but the Tories were always going to be judged on the recovery of the economy. Everything else plays second fiddle; EU, migrant workers, NHS, Syria, whatever. TBF (and as much as I don't like the Tories) the UK seems to be in a better place now.

My biggest bone of contention is the EU and migrant workers. I find it disgusting that what really amounts to social dumping of unskilled labour to Britain is allowed. Its not as if Britains economy is booming. The idea of free trade between member states is laughable when so much is made and imported from the far east instead of keeping production (and jobs) in GB. Let alone suppressing the minimum wage by flooding an already depressed job market with even more unskilled workers. Any UK party that claims to have the UK peoples interests at heart should be addressing these issues. As someone whos always voted Labour in the past I'm disheartened by the parties complete apathy toward the working class.

Well in that case you weren't wrong. Me, On the other hand, along with my 'fashion'(?)  sense  appears to be (again) completely out of touch with the mainstream. I was expecting at least a hung parliament, with those careerist wankers from the Labour Party being moderated by the more grass roots influence of the SNP.

And here we are - with the prospect of another 5 years of that smug C*nt Cameron and his old etonian elitist chums, the dismantling of anything that resembles the welfare state and more 'free market' economics. I'd been leafleting/campaigning for my local canditate for TUSC in the dying days of the campaign, whereas, obviously, we weren't expecting any sort of left wing landslide, I am completely taken aback by the result and evident sort of fatalism that now appears to be so pervasive amongst the British working class. I totally agree that Milliband comes across as an oddball, which doesn't help in the style over substance arena of modern politics, but, then again - had they had been elected - they would have just been another Tory second 11- sucking up to their handlers in big business. Have spent the day talking with my 17 old Son and trying to explain to him that it wasn't always like this, showed him photos in John Gormans brilliant 'To build Jerusalem'  and 'A century of struggle - Britains Miners 1889 - 1989'  - obviously, he wasn't interested    - ....... but then again, he's at college, doesn't have a job, a mortgage and four kids to look after ... . In my humble opinion, the biggest problem facing the working class in 2015 is poverty of expectation - the current hegemony is something dating back to the eighteenth/nineteenth century, with working people seeming to exist only to facilitate their 'lords and masters', and seemingly happy to do so. This sort of learned helplesness is a million miles away from my youth in the more polarized eighties and membership of the NUM. I completely agree with GW , that the major parties, most shockingly, the Labour party have abandoned the working class ..... the BIG question being, where do we go from here? Ultimately, we're living through history .... but, I'm still convinced -  we will Win !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHCSMT1Q1OY

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I'm more than happy with a quick response Chuck.  I was merely advancing an argument which relates to self identity, and not the job which the person has.  I'm reminded of the famous 'Mondeo man' who was courted by the Conservatives.  They themselves described him as 'working class', but I strongly suspect that he would have disagreed.

I couldn't agree more - however, therein lies the rub. The election has proven that you and I are out of touch with the vast majority of voters on these fundamental issues. The legacy of Thatcherism is still haunting this country and the concept that there is no society - just a collection of self interests, where nobody identifies with anyone elses problems. As Chet said, a lot of people don't identify themselves as working class, although they patently are, and this is where the class war is being won by the super rich - the illusory notion that we are all aspiring to be middle class. Many moons ago - somebody posted a quote from John Steinbeck on Modculture - “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”  - seems to me , that this where we are today in Britain. In a less highbrow quote - from 'The usual suspects' (if I remember correctly) - the greatest trick the devil ever pulled, was to convince people he didn't exist.

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And let us not forget the Trade Unions who have operated outside of their remit in realms of ideology and their support for the mayor of Tower Hamlets, along with The Guardian. They are as guilty as Labour, perhaps even more so.

They are all bloody useless, of course.

UKIP have nothing to defend though; no need to use weasel words or dodge issues other parties are uncomfortable with. No Farage no party however.

Economy is screwed because my generation allowed all the jobs to be exported. People often pestered their employers for a pay off, so the job could be off shored.

My generation also let immigration get out of control. Now we have the "Camp of The Saints" scenario. Instead of saying "there is no asylum - just illegals" they try and play a guilt card if you object to letting the bar stewards in.

Mea culpa.

Economy is a great big Ponzi scheme with "light touch financial regulation",  "too big to fail" and privatised profit but government bail out of losses. The wheels will really come off soon. "Improving economy" is main stream media bs.