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#1 2015-08-05 15:35:59

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Armani and the politics of men's suits...


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

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#2 2015-08-05 15:53:47

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Ideally you should reflect your principles..isnt that the idea of clothing? To be project who you are? Or who you want to be?

 

#3 2015-08-05 15:55:07

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If JC bought a nice Brooks makers he wouldn't be too far off slouchy Ivy with what he wears.

 

#4 2015-08-05 17:17:37

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Milliband and Spencer Hart deserve each other.


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#5 2015-08-06 08:34:33

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#6 2015-08-06 08:35:36

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#7 2015-08-06 08:37:07

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Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#8 2015-08-06 10:42:28

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#9 2015-08-06 11:39:13

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#10 2015-08-06 11:57:53

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Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#11 2015-08-06 12:02:05

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#12 2015-08-06 12:54:03

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#13 2015-08-06 12:55:13

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Whether Corbyn would make a good PM I don't know but I strongly suspect he does have principles. Socialist ones that may be impractical, but they are principles.


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#14 2015-08-06 14:22:32

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Corbyn would make an excellent PM....

....in Soviet era Russia.


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#15 2015-08-06 17:33:59

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That may well be true, but it doesn't actually contradict with my point.

Unlike most on here I'm one of the masses who has nothing left to lose in post-Thatcherite Britain, so even if the guy is another Stalin I'll still support him on the off chance that things will be slightly better for me under his Soviet style policies - things can't get any worse for me. Realistically I'll still have to emigrate if I ever want to work and/or have a decent standard of living again but I may as well risk it.

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#16 2015-08-06 17:58:13

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He's no Stalin.

What's interesting is that he's portrayed as a progressive, he's no such thing, he's a conservative and a reactionary one at that. You cannot make the world a better place by going backwards.

More polite commentators would describe him as being on 'the wrong side of history' whereas I consider him a dinosaur.

If elected, he will be a disaster for the Labour party, and that is a tragedy not just for Labour, but for the country as a whole...A healthy democracy needs a strong opposition.


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#17 2015-08-06 22:30:17

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Re: Armani and the politics of men's suits...

Interesting because the British are a strange mix of acting like clothing doesnt matter...but suddenly everyone in the country knows that a covert coat is "suspect". Doesnt seem to take much to become suspect either way. And what does this suspicion entail? I thought there was a desire to knock out the class system? Doesnt this rigidity about what a man can wear all support a narrow (read elite) definition of who is to be trusted?

Now, I can understand if you follow fashion or care about clothes a whole lot. However, how can a people who seem to like to pretend to care so little about clothes get worried about price points on suits?

There's something else at work here.

 

#18 2015-08-07 00:18:02

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The covert coat issue has nothing to do with the French, rather it is the Arthur Daley association: a likeable rogue.

As for what is going on, the Brits love to denigrate everyone and anyone on the basis of accent, background and dress. As soon as you open your gob, put-on or take-off a tie, someone, somewhere is going to think you are a complete c%&t.

Politicians with a few notable & refreshing exceptions - the ageing Norman Tebbit, Farage of course and that chap in the Lords who dresses like Winston Churchill - all buy into this and dress as bland and as devoid of style as possible. As an example, Tony Blair, there's a lot to be said about him, but his sartorial style is not one of them.


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#19 2015-08-07 02:33:57

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#20 2015-08-07 03:13:47

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I agree with Yuca's analysis.

Corbyn was a peripheral figure for years and branded as "extreme". However, he has shown that given the opportunity he is capable of putting his points across very well. He does not pause to calculate how the question fits in to official policy or how it may play in the media. He knows the media will not be with him.

None of the main parties work for the benefit of the electorate. They are all in the hands of wealthy lobbies who shape policy and indirectly give their MPs their marching orders.

If I had nothing, or 'poverty of aspirations' to be more accurate, Corbyn would appeal. Some of his policies appeal anyway. The main drawback is that he will take from the squeezed middle to give to the poor rather than go after the very wealthy.

Carlin sums up neo liberal set up in America and it applies in the UK also. Croney capitalism.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q


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#21 2015-08-07 03:31:44

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I am astonished at the Left's faith in Corbyn - he has delivered nothing, held no significant office for all his 66 years and his one admirable claim to fame amongst those with their noses in the trough is that he has claimed the least expenses of all MP's. However, his constituency is in London, so one would expect his claims to be moderate.

The Left are clutching at straws - he resonates nought with the times and lacks charisma, he dresses like an off-duty geography teacher on the bones of his arse and his views on Venezuela are all too revealing.

What his ilk would deliver is the client state, over ruled by the immaculate intelligentsia who need you down in the dirt where they can lavish their largesse on you and your family. Think Gordon's gang on meta-amphetamines and ultimate ruin.

He should take his pension and bugger-off quitely.


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#22 2015-08-07 03:55:29

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Look at the other candidates. A jumped up SPAD like Liz Kendall? Someone who screwed up at the NHS like Burnham? Mrs. Ed Balls?

No thanks.

A danger of a managerial state is a burgeoning quango culture, but that is no worse than a government in thrall to the worst criminal excesses of The City.

We have no paleoconservative option in the UK. Globalists reign supreme.

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#23 2015-08-07 06:24:56

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#24 2015-08-07 06:30:14

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I dunno, we seem (rather you in the UK seem) to be in reverse from the 70s now. Wasn't it the unions that were greedy back then? Now it's the fat cats and the inhumane faceless EU monster. I understand the unions had to be cut down by Mrs. T. and I can see why the national industries were sold off, clearly that was a bottomless pit. Though now, in hindsight, look at the cost. Now its the other way. And MPs from all parties are in the grabbing line. Quango's...didn't get the seat mate...you can do this for us.

Meanwhile in the unskilled job markets we have imported cheap labour and zero hour contracts? WTF use is that to anyone? 

Corbyn seems to be happy going to work and back on the tube. He's claimed the least in expenses when he's paid a decent wage? He might just be the man for the job.


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#25 2015-08-07 06:33:46

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Corbyn is no dummy most of his economic ideas are already in place in Germany and is just looking to be as socially progressive as the Scandinavian countires...we're just downtrodden into thinking we have to succumb to neo-liberal policies which have delivered very little for the working classes and lower middle classes. And unfortunately due to being a democracy if Corbyn can send a shockwave of hope through that electorate a sea change could occur.

I believe very much in balance and you may think JC is too left...but in a time of an excessive right he really is the only answer for the majority of people. A moderate Labour wont work with things as out of balance as they are.

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