You should change your name to Heperbole.

1 in 5 people below the poverty line in the UK and the answer is mass retraining in computer coding and engineering ? And you guys say Corbyn is a joke?

The fact is we have a completely morally corrupt government...austerity enforced to redistribute wealth...New Labour was just as bad at managing it...allowing for banks to do what they liked etc..no wonder Corbyn and Farrage have becone appealing to so many

Last edited by Bop (2015-09-17 03:37:12)

Bop, I had a bad time at school, I was a proper Johnny Rebel. Chucked out two weeks before Easter, not that I was doing any exams anyway. I thought I'd walk into a job for a ton a week. Of course with it being 1982 and be being 16 and knowing zero that was stupid I now realise. Well, I realised it within a month as it goes. Drifted from job to job, some alright, most poo poo. Even tried my hand at shoplifting for a year or so. Got stuck in down the footie and in the end copped a job in the big house for two years. I was, I can admit, an all round prick.
Not having a decent education or having a dodgy youth is no excuse for wallowing in self pity with null application to improve your standard of living via learning new skills or showing some entrepreneur thinking. We all want a good job, nice holidays, car and our own home to fall in our laps, sadly life just isn't like that.
As for spending dough on clobber...I only do that because I like to wear nice clothes. Thats it. No deep reason, no thinking it makes me a better person. Nothing to do with the fact I wear overalls to work. I just love nice clobber. Italian Ivy wearing chippy mod that I am. Can I suggest you think about your negative attitude to your life and stop thinking that I'm in some sort of denial that I'm not happy with my lot? Cause your making me realise that the graft I've put in has been well worth it.

The position that all those people in the UK with no opportunities, living in poverty are in this position because they have no skills, no value in the job market, or are feckless or bone idle is morally obscene.

Further thread drift.

"Corbynism" reduced to massive welfare increases for all and sundry.

Work harder and smarter offered as a solution.

Possibility of changing things so the game is not as tilted and the system rigged simply ignored.

"There is no alternative" still chimes with many it seems.

Hey, I'm all for change. I'm all for no more migrant workers, no zero hour contacts, big import tax on British companies manufacturing outside the EU for the UK market. A review and revoke of Uk arms dealers selling licences. Much faster and firmer dealing with refugee claims. I love to see public ownership of Gas, Leccy, water and public transport.

I'm just not for sitting on my arse blaming the system for my short comings or being insulted because I've an alright paid job and that I'm somehow a shallow person for doing so and then "wasting" my dough on clothes.

But I will say this...there are thousands of people who are happy to claim benefits who will tell anyone that'll listen they can't get a job. If you think otherwise you've very mistaken. JUst like theres thousands who like to moan about being suppressed  in the low paid sector, when in truth they just can't be arsed to apply themselfs to change. Again, how much can you earn putting light bulbs in boxes?

Last edited by Goodyear welt (2015-09-17 21:42:43)

Fuckin ell, your not Ivy Jim are you?

I'm Goodyear, just pulling your chain Mr. B. Was Ivy Jim before your time? Silly joke really.

I'm quite keen on the idea of staff. There is always a riff between Mrs. W and myself about cleaning the house but she always flatly refuses the suggestion of a cleaner.