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What it shows is how well the mind cant protect itself from shame when culturally it's behaviour is permitted. The like of hep and formby are free from.shame and remorse..because their view has been framed so...why does billions of pounds go into influencing our beliefs and thoughts.because the parental role of our cultural elite frame it such to bring out the worst in us in order to facilitate their own goals..
The truth is humans are very weak minded and easily manipulated. If you're making excuses for suffering your already in the trap...
Im not naive enough to suggest there is a perfect world..but what you allow as being acceptable is not actually shaped in your own mind, and that is how we are left exposed to be manipulated into allowing inhumane things to happen under our watch. Because our moral compasses are set outside of us..and we are all capable of terrible things; not only by our own primitive natures but the ability to consciously frame these things in acceptable ways... eg do it to them before they do it to you is the simplest one I can think of
If you can quantify suffering because you believe you're a realist..actually what you have done is framed your apathy to be accepted by your morality in order for your survival..
Now that doesnt mean you vote Corbyn...or he is infact correct on everything...arguably the antidote for going too far right is to move too far left to being any imbalance back into correction...any idiot can see that..but its more than that, what he is doing like Farrage to a degree, is bringing a lot of questioning of current ways the establishment and press have of framing their arguements which lets face it is normally to do with them benefitting from the results..this has less to do with left or right than the system itself being open to corruption, clearly anyone benefiting from the current status quo would be mad to rock the boat...unless of course they did feel shame..
I dont think Corbyn is a long term solution but he is a welcomed therapeutic dose
Last edited by Bop (2015-09-28 01:07:14)
Exactly, what is it that we should feel shame for, Bop?
This is the crux of the argument of the Far Left, we saw it in action yesterday, with Gloria de Piero drawing attention to her eating free school dinners whilst Cameron was supposedly sipping champagne on Concorde. The moral of the story here is that being on free school dinners made her virtuousness encapsulated and that those who through no fault of their own, are born into privilige are morally degenerate. Rest assured that you too will have a chance to experience the dignity of poverty under the Cobynista regime.
I too enjoyed the dignity of free school dinners, well, I swopped my pack lunch for the free school dinner ticket a couple of times. I can't say it made me morally aware, but it does show that the welfare state is functioning and Gloria should be thankful of this.
It's like a nightmare of Goya's prints and the Omen films combined. I feel the hairshirt brigade in Labour are on a mission to inflict pain and small terror. There is evil here.
Last edited by Bop (2015-09-28 01:43:28)
I put it to you that you are inflicted with the disease of the hard Left: you are emoting because you have been directed to by the party.
Deep down you know its evil.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKdJEPQoPHY
This strange collection of curiosities, oddballs, hypocrites and twisted fire starters.
Its like I should feel shame for buying clothes in Primark, or from Apple...or really company like that..because of the often terrible conditions those workers are put under...I justify it two ways I can say, well I cant afford responsibly produced clothing..and two well surely these people need jobs and its all part of their country's process towards becoming industrialised...
Well what about if I was able to afford otherwise, or legislation was imposed to minimise this stuff being imported..or we had other options..etc then maybe Id be in a posistion to make better and more practical decisions
I had become quite apathetic to the idea we might...but all it ever takes is a movement towards such things and a difference can be made...thats been proven countless times...and often its slipped in the other direction too.
We're not in a system with much consideration for people
Last edited by Bop (2015-09-28 02:06:48)
Before you get a hairshirt for your underpants, get a pink furry suit, get down and save yourself and family!
All the rest is BS and you should be old enough to know it.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWdIvm7kjyA
Is it though? The whole idea of a group was to support the invidual ..when this system which has allowed overtly invidual attitudes like your own begins to break down then what's left? Better solutions for the invidual through solutions in a group.. its a bit like the evolutionary blip where playing guitar could make anyone a millionaire...now music is devalued you cant really hold on to that attitude that once worked
But how can that be, we all know that success can only be through nepotism or party favours?!
Well it doesnt matter does it...because we're all part of a self adjusting system..there is merit in what everybody says.. but I dont feel like turning into the skid on this one is going to work...If corbyn does successfully then what we will eventually see is the negatives from adjusting too far in that direction...but i feel an adjustment is needed...because at the moment we're not facing up to a lot of the worlds issues in fact we're making them worse... like a smoker that doesnt take the doctors warnings until their third heart attack
Last edited by Bop (2015-09-28 02:28:19)
It takes someone like Corbyn to bring some realisations into the mainstream as they become more evident.. hopefully we will find a point where we can continue with personal freedoms and wealth in a way that serves a larger proportion of people and we take into consideration environmental impact etc...thats the real challenge that faces us...but at the moment we ignore it..and make do and graft..like the smoker that excuses their habit.. or a caveman not aspiring to create a tool that makes his life better..because currently to them nothing like it exsists ...or previous attempt at creating it failed...I think we completely do ourselves an injustice not to approach things with a bit more hope, and intelligence.
Last edited by Bop (2015-09-28 02:39:58)
What Corbyn promises is more dole money and perhaps a cushy number as a ticket collector or other non-entity job in the new nationalised and centrally controlled Jerusalem.
The real challenge is getting up off your jacksy and actually doing something!
Last edited by 4F Hepcat (2015-09-28 03:13:10)
Tough love is one thing... not giving a shit is something else
Save yourself Bop.....
You just need to look at Sir Paul Kenny and his bloody complexion and the gold on his wrist.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAbzlj3nf4E