Last edited by Chévere (2015-10-05 18:05:00)

Interesting to see how many on here think what goes on around them is irrelevant. Their own efforts will overcome all.

That may not be the case amongst the general public. Even Americans do not believe the American Dream notion as much as they did in the past. UK seems to follow US trends to some extent.

The good thing about it is that elites will realise they cannot get away with so much quite so easily. Electorates have to be appeased to some extent.
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/10/american-dreams/408535/

Last edited by Kingston1an (2015-10-06 04:54:47)

Crisis report about 6000 rough sleeper  in London alone. I am not sure how your figures are calculated. Obviously government agencies have no interest in under reporting.

A foreigner will see things more clearly. My imagination must be playing tricks on me.

The reality of the world has not dawned on these people and a cynic would say that the trouble with them is that they have not experienced their cities being bombed into oblivion. Then they might understand the true horror and harsh reality of the world and the value of actually doing something instead of sitting on your arse waiting for Corbyn to come and wipe it clean for you. Two cases in point: Germany and Japan.

No one has yet succeeded in growing a country from wealth redistribution, what makes this time different? Ah yes, I heared the lovely platitudes about the UK's highly skilled Posties who will grow the economy delivering letters. How quaint.

I have seen poverty and the debasement of the human condition that you had to look twice at to believe you were actually witnessing and I find it hard to comprehend this culture of perceived entitlement and that because one exists that the privilege of wealth is an automatic given. It is not, it has to be worked, earned and fought for. How unfair, and yes, I agree: what moral right do we have to have it all whilst there are 10 year old homeless kids with ulcerated legs glue sniffing themselves to death whilst pissing themselves on the beach in Leblon? Seriously, why are the poor in Blighty more deserving than those elsewhere? We are no more worthy, or less worthy than them, if you can accept this, you can move on up.

It is a moral duty to work and better oneself. To waste the chance that one has in being born in the West is a crime against the weight of centuries. And as hard as they try, I just can't buy into the Labour propaganda that the UK in 2015 is a mirror image of the dark satanic mills of the 1820s or 1850s.

And of course, nor did the British electorate, as they rejected that notion at the last election where they totally and utterly rejected the Millipede on such a platform. Good to see the new Labour following the same path, but with added spin on the liberation from the human condition via the touchy feely New Politics.

As after thought, I would be interested in David Icke's view of this New Labour and whether, as I do at the allegory level, he sees something centipedic, lizard and insectoid like at the heart of the Corbynistas?

Last edited by 4F Hepcat (2015-10-06 11:19:42)