Last edited by 4F Hepcat (2015-11-18 01:30:35)

There's a number of sources to that, ORB International in London reported 22% of Syrians support ISIS. It was the Syrian Ambassador to India who said 20% of the refugees belong to ISIS groups.

Who knows what, when you live in a world where the passport found on one of the terrorists is currently being used by another 8 immigrants in Europe?

It was the Mayor of Amsterdam:

http://www.nltimes.nl/2015/11/16/rotterdam-mayor-we-must-eradicate-isis-be-more-inclusive-towards-muslims/

Last edited by Bop (2015-11-18 04:35:51)

99.9 percent of the Muslim world dont stand for what ISIS want...is the quote. Which Im guessing is a turn of phrase? So your current arguement is based on that quote, and an ORB survey that currently doesnt appear to back up what youve said. So Im not sure I can take what youve said as anything other than opinion because when we look at the figures youve raised..they dont seem to stand up

We don't know what the actual numbers who support ISIS are, or are members of sleeper cells, that's the whole point. We can only hope that those coming in are thoroughly checked and those on faked passports denied refugee status. We see many of our allies refusing the refugees on security reasons, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Poland, Hungary and many US State Governors are refusing to go along with Obama's refugee plans for the US.

You don't know whether the figures stand up or not, we can only test this over time and based on the current events, we may find we have a higher proportion of terrorists and jihadists than the lower estimates.

Yes, and the irony of of our "ally" Saudi Arabia not letting refugees in for fear of them being IS supporters is palpable.

You only need to look to the house of Saud to find those - supporters both in terms of ideology and money. Yet we continue to deal arms to them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34877683

Apparently all the #BlacklivesMatter nutters over here have got their panties in a bunch about the momentary lack of attention and started a #FuckParis hashtag.

The oil industry is not good at the moment, massive over supply in the market which is likely to increase if the sanctions on Iran are lifted next year, a glut of drilling equipment, the North Sea and Aberdeen like a ghost town, lots of disinvestment and unlikely to move into positive territory until 2019. Which means some sectors will be marred in recession until 2021. But the good news is that's it's positive growth there on in until 2045! At least your petrol will be cheap for the foreseeable. Still, lots of potential for black swan events in the ME.

The focus is on LNG at the moment which is still somewhat buoyant, but a good bet is the Nuclear side of construction in the UK.

What the recession will do is to encourage all the old timers in their mid to late seventies to actually retire and make room for the next generation which is only fair.

No legitimate company, including their sub-suppliers are going to be working for the Islamic State, or buying oil from them. Despite it's cowboy reputation, the oil & gas industry is extremely well regulated when it comes to corporate governance, implementing code of ethics etc and the Americans vigour in prosecuting international corruption in dollar contracts have assisted somewhat. There's still a way to go, the Petrobras scandal as still some big players left to be exposed, allegedly one of my competitors which I am looking forward to.

There's still work out there of course, maintenance and shutdowns continue unabated. Also there's two Kazakhstan projects, a massive ethylene project in the Middle East and LNG projects in the USA and elsewhere. And everyone, but his dog is making moves ready for Iran. But Aberdeen and Perth (WA) are dead.

One of the problems with the contract rates is not so much the clients who in general are asking for reductions which when you factor in currency rate changes are probably overdue anyway, but we see some of the larger corporations in a race to the bottom in a desperate attempt to corner the market. But if the clients haven't got the work, you have to batten down the hatches and ride it out, however, some managers don't have this luxury where the demands of shareholders dictate a percentage increase and profit margin year in and year out. This is not possible in my side of the business, you have to be able to expand and contract with the market, otherwise you are doomed.

And we also see the PIGS effect in action, in the last 5 years, the cost of doing business in the likes of Italy has become much more expensive, more so than in Germany and the Netherlands for example. A mixture of guaranteed pay raises, higher/a multitude of hidden taxes and other bureaucratic spanners in the work. Acceptable in the good times, but once you're in a recession the exposure and inefficiency of these countries becomes stark against the northern power houses.