yes, I am very pleased.

The overall fit just feels very "right." Atleast as good, if not better, than my Ratio shirts where I got to specify every measurement. Of course, when you provide all that info yourself, it does give you the rope to hang yourself. Not that anyone here rely's much on Esquire, but in a recent issue they mentioned that the more measurements you provide to an online MTM shirt company, the worse the fit will be. That's not going to be true in all cases, but I'm sure it ends up being true a lot.

Most of all, I really like the unlined collar and button flap pocket....that pair of features combined with custom sleeve length and body fit, and the shirts are a real winner. I feel like the shirts are very unique in a subtle way. Also, I'm no expert on when unlined collars were common (I think I've read they were more common back at some point in history?), nor am I expert on the historical usage of button flap pockets (J Press signature feature?), but to me these features feel sortof "old timey" in a cool way, though not necessarily specific to a certain era.

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Exactly. Particularly bizarre when we remember that it comes with a 7 button placket - a feature that first appeared circa 1988. Making the new shirts a hybrid of the pre 1950s and post late 1980s.

They still look good though.

A 6 button yes, although I believe originally it will have been a 4 button pullover type of shirt. By the 40s or earlier the full length placket had become the standard.

The 6 button is superior to the 7 button placket imo, but of course with a tie it's irrelevant. Thus I can wear a 1990s Brooks BD with a 50s sportscoat and tie and the shirt looks absolutely period correct. I find that quite incredible. Even tieless the old 7 buttons Makers do look great (I'm wearing an old 7 button half sleeve right now in fact), but tieless the 6 button have the edge. I have plenty of both courtesy of the likes of Ebay. And I wear them a hell of a lot. Even when they're battered (naturally not via sandpaper) they look good.

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I could be wrong (but the ol' memory bucket's not bad):  there were at least a couple of shits in late 80's 7 button plackets into the 2010+ in "the button stance" on the placket.

Great info and links.  Thanks.