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#1 2016-07-30 14:12:30

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The British Disdain for White Shirts

Can someone explain to me why as per the old narrative white shirts are looked down upon in Britain?

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#2 2016-07-30 14:55:05

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Re: The British Disdain for White Shirts

Good question...

Ok...firstly I'm not sure that they are disdained as such...perhaps just not popular.

A few ideas I'll throw out there...

Maybe, historically it was the only area of an Englishmen dress where a little self expression was acceptable...The Brits do like colourful shirts. How far this love affair stretches back in their sartorial history I'm not sure.

Maybe white shirts aren't flattering to the typical Englishman's complexion and so are/were avoided.

Maybe they patterned shirts are considered better at hiding potential grime around the collar.

When I think of the quintessential English Gents shirt choice I'm put in mind of a Butcher Stripe.


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#3 2016-07-31 09:27:59

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Stripes are indeed quintessentially English and one thing I notice, our American cousins seem to sport white shirts more than the Brits.

I think the historic smog may have something to do with it, but in saying that, if you look at photos of manual workers in the first half of the 20th century and many appear to be sporting white shirts, unless the B&W prints showed certain shades of blue was white in prints.


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#4 2016-07-31 10:29:21

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#5 2016-07-31 12:53:19

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#6 2016-07-31 13:10:04

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#7 2016-08-01 10:41:07

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Re: The British Disdain for White Shirts

I am British and i don't look down on white shirts. I have plenty in the wardrobe, mainly  OCBD's. I think the white shirt is quite a versatile item. Back in the early 80's I worked for an American consultants involved in the oil industry and when attending meetings with BP etc. It  was considered proper to wear a white shirt (normally with a pinstripe suit). I never got used to wearing the pinstripe suit. In the late 80's I worked for an architectural practice in West London where several architects wore white shirts on a daily basis. Back then I think the big names Foster and Rogers often wore white shirts without ties. I usually wore knitted ties with my shirts but the more flamboyant members often wore bow ties.
Today I please myself and find that a white shirt can suit either casual or formal occasions. I rarely wear a tie.

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#8 2016-08-03 00:19:17

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There is an argument that white shirts, particularly OCBD's give an accurate impression of being a creative designer type. I can go along with that.

The oil industry is pretty much sans ties these days, you only really see higher management and now that the Indianisation of the industry amongst a number of majors and contractors is ongoing the no tie rule is set to remain in full force. But what I think is that the difference between the herd and the high flyers will be more clearly defined by what you are wearing than anytime in the last 10 or 15 years now. We shall see.

Pinstripe suits for most of my early career was a sign of the money men disciplines, mostly the senior accountants and in the 90s I use to think that people would think I was an accountant, or pretending to be an accountant if I wore them. However, I did have two pinstripe suits back in the mid-2000's now.


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#9 2016-08-05 11:43:18

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Re: The British Disdain for White Shirts

Plenty of white shirts around in the City, but I would say more common amongst the younger crowd outside the higher status professions, worn alongside too-short suit jackets and skinny lapels.

Don't see as many butcher stripes as you used to.  Personally I go for pale pink and pale blue plain shirts as a rule, with a few gingham checks for Fridays...

 

#10 2016-08-06 01:25:33

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#11 2016-08-06 04:15:43

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Re: The British Disdain for White Shirts

That looks more like the typical T&A pyjama stripes.
Butcher's stripes were executed best by H&H before they modernized their portfolio.


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#12 2016-08-07 07:30:48

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#13 2016-08-07 09:36:37

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They are s predictable. Usually worn by some Alan Clark type, wearing a canary yellow jumper when trimming the roses.


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#15 2016-08-07 12:24:16

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#16 2016-08-07 15:48:58

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#17 2016-08-07 19:09:53

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#19 2016-08-10 03:59:44

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#20 2016-08-10 11:32:55

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#21 2016-08-10 11:33:57

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#22 2016-08-13 12:05:58

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#23 2016-08-13 12:25:47

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