What a crazy thread this became, over the weekend. I still think those who insist on "trad" is only available to true Americans, are insular fools.

I love you - You're such a fish - You always rise to the bait!

In 2007 your clothes are Trad on the Internet.
In 2003 they would have been called Ivy League by those who knew their stuff.

I don't believe that your clothes would be called Trad today by non-Internet people.

... And I think that's fantastic.

- The power of the Internet to influence what internet people think & do!

On other sites I've encourage people to drink each other's urine as a prelude to sex and to post photographs of their wives wearing shoes on their breasts.

... I love the Net!


If you love Trad then you love me. Equally, if you hate Trad then you love me. I'm in charge of Trad never forget!

No gratitude is due to me at all. Thank Gomie - His idea to take over Trad. My idea to do so to try to boost the reality of the old American style which is now bastardised & called Trad.

Southern Trad et al is a great laugh. I love it too. The more Trads of every kind the better - But we do need to educate them all now. Make them sharper. Phase Two, doncha know.

My views on Ivy aren't actually out there because both here & there and under all the names I use and have used which you know & don't know I've never really gone in for the Harris style 'Gospel According To Me'. All you will get from reading my stuff is my taste for forum-fucking.

It's a growing sport you know...

I love Harris being the Godfather - We put him there. He is one of our funniest jokes.


Post whenever you want to & wherever you want to - It's all good. There are no Trad wars -

Just fun, fun, fun -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxiYvjX7umI



j.

I think, G, is the third way.

... And I have to say that although I'd love Trad to boost Ivy style I'm still just as interested in all this fooling about on the 'puter if it boosts Preppy or Anglo style instead...

Trad as we see it on Andyland and as masterfully described by Trad to the Bone is a very broad church. It covers so many bases.

I'm an Ivy league fan, but you don't have to be. You can find what's Trad for you and go with that.

If we use it properly the Trad forum potentially could be incredible. That's my hope.

But. They. Need. To. Get. Themselves. An. Education.

... And only they can educate themselves - I'd never dictate anybody's style to them. We had enough of that crap when Harris held the attention of the Trad forum.

Harris really was a great test you know... Only those who knew less than him fell under his spell (& Harris knew very little & bluffed the rest badly). Those who knew more either left in disgust or spoofed him or used him for their own agenda.

I love the Net!

And I love Trad too for what it might become.
At the moment to 'Be a Trad' is to be the punchline of somebody else's joke.

The Trads can change all that if they wise up.

As with everything in life though it's all down to them.

I wish them well & will help them all I can...

Here's a start - Check out  (in no order) Mr. Pollock, Mr. Horace, Mr. Stylestudent, Mr. Meyer, Dr. Damage... You know the list.

We can all know as much or as little as we choose.

But we all have to remember that we will always be judged by our choices.

- What a world!

j.

Wait, so TBD=Jack?  Or two separate people?  I must confess that I would've never guessed about ol' TBD at AAAC.  As I recall, back in the day, TBD was as "trad orthodox" and full of that weird annoying aspirational thing as the best of them.  I was totally fooled.  But then again, the level of "trolling" that has recently come to light is amazing to me.   I'm not sure it's entirely good thing, but it's amusing (sometimes) and whatever....